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Old 06-29-2006, 10:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Pentagon says homosexuality not a mental disorder

Source: The Washington Post
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Pentagon says homosexuality not a mental disorder

By Will Dunham
Reuters
Wednesday, June 28, 2006; 3:30 PM

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Pentagon no longer deems homosexuality a mental disorder, officials said on Wednesday, although the reversal has no impact on U.S. policy prohibiting openly gay people from serving in the military.

After a 1996 Pentagon document placing homosexuality among a list of "certain mental disorders" came to light this month, the American Psychiatric Association and a handful of lawmakers asked the Defense Department to change its view.

The Pentagon said in a statement: "Homosexuality should not have been characterized as a mental disorder in an appendix of a procedural instruction. A clarification will be issued over the next few days."

"Notwithstanding its inclusion, we find no practical impact since that appendix simply listed factors that do not constitute a physical disability, and homosexuality of course does not," the Pentagon added.

The 1996 Pentagon document, which had been recertified as "current" three years ago, had listed homosexuality as a mental disorder alongside mental retardation, impulse control disorders and personality disorders.

The American Psychiatric Association, responsible for a definitive listing of mental health classifications, declassified homosexuality as a mental disorder in 1973.

In fiscal 2005, which ended last September 30, 726 military personnel were discharged under the "don't ask, don't tell" policy, the Pentagon said.

Adopted by Congress in 1993, the policy allows homosexuals to serve in the armed forces only if they do not reveal their sexual orientation and abstain from gay sex.

It was a compromise worked out with Congress under President Bill Clinton, who had tried to lift the military's long-standing prohibition on homosexuals.

Those opposed to gays in the military have argued the presence of homosexuals could undermine good discipline and order in the ranks.

RATE OF DISCHARGES SLOWED

Changing the classification "will be consistent with the scientific consensus on homosexuality and mental health," said Nathaniel Frank, a researcher at the Center for the Study of Sexual Minorities in the Military at the University of California at Santa Barbara.

The center recently found and released the 1996 document.

"I'm glad the language has been changed," said Steve Ralls, spokesman for the Servicemembers Legal Defense Network, which opposes limits on gays in the military.

Ralls said he believed it was a simple oversight by the Pentagon, not malice, that the document continued to list homosexuality as a mental disorder.

The Servicemembers Legal Defense Network said the rate of troops discharged under the "don't ask, don't tell" policy had fallen by about 40 percent since the beginning of U.S. military operations following the September 11 attacks on the United States.

"There is no good reason for keeping the ban in place and there's every good reason for repealing it," Ralls said. "It's discriminatory and robbing the military of talented men and women who want to serve. It's unnecessary. We've seen bans lifted among our closest allies. In Iraq and Afghanistan, Americans are serving alongside openly gay British troops."

Legislation in the House of Representatives to lift the restrictions on homosexuals in the military appears to have little chance of passage in the Republican-controlled Congress. There is no similar Senate bill.
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Old 06-29-2006, 11:43 AM   #2 (permalink)

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"It's discriminatory and robbing the military of talented men and women who want to serve. It's unnecessary. We've seen bans lifted among our closest allies. In Iraq and Afghanistan, Americans are serving alongside openly gay British troops."
The majority of people that get kicked out for being homo are people that use it to get out of the service, not people that want to stay in. Some of the people kicked out for it aren't even gay.
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The majority of people that get kicked out for being homo are people that use it to get out of the service, not people that want to stay in. Some of the people kicked out for it aren't even gay.
wouldn't that also be an argument to stop the discrimination against homosexuals in the military? if you can't get kicked out for it, no more faking-gay to get out of your contract.
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wouldn't that also be an argument to stop the discrimination against homosexuals in the military? if you can't get kicked out for it, no more faking-gay to get out of your contract.
Could be a good arguement. Personally i don't care if homos are in or not as long as they conduct themselves like soldiers in uniform or out of uniform. Same standard for hetero troops. We've had known/highly suspect homos in out Battalion but they were good troops and nobody cared. Then we've had the drug addicted /troubled homos and they got kicked out. We've also had plenty of teh fake homos.

Although i have to admit, i didn't mind one bit that the fakes got booted. They didn't belong anyway.
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WTF? Why dont they make up their mind? They were clearly faced with overwealming evidence that ***s have a mental disorder. Its called GID. Gender Identity Disorder. The World health organization confirmed it untill the fukcing gay lobby forced them to withdraw the diagnosis.

I think the same thing happened here with the pentagon. Its all about being politically corect and has nothing to do with reality anymore. People would rather believe that ***s are normal than point out that they are fucking mentally sick and disgusting. Notice that though the pentagon was forced to withdraw the diagnosis, they same laws apply regarding turning away ***s in the military? They gay lobby is getting too strong, but the pentagon will have the final say. I dont think they should have to bow to the twisted demands of a bunch of mentally ill ***s who are runing family values.
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how are gays ruining family values? you've never substantiated this claim in any thread when you've been asked to. yet you keep repeating it.
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WTF? Why dont they make up their mind? They were clearly faced with overwealming evidence that ***s have a mental disorder. Its called GID. Gender Identity Disorder. The World health organization confirmed it untill the fukcing gay lobby forced them to withdraw the diagnosis.

I think the same thing happened here with the pentagon. Its all about being politically corect and has nothing to do with reality anymore. People would rather believe that ***s are normal than point out that they are fucking mentally sick and disgusting. Notice that though the pentagon was forced to withdraw the diagnosis, they same laws apply regarding turning away ***s in the military? They gay lobby is getting too strong, but the pentagon will have the final say. I dont think they should have to bow to the twisted demands of a bunch of mentally ill ***s who are runing family values.
It's called progress, deal with it.
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how are gays ruining family values? you've never substantiated this claim in any thread when you've been asked to. yet you keep repeating it.
I know. In another thread I asked him to define or elaborate on family values and he just pretended he didn't see my post. He's either a troll just saying shit for the sake of getting a rise or he's at a loss for argument so he just moves on to rant somewhere else.
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it's your ball, like when talking with theists. you have to prove that god does NOT exist and you have to prove that gays are in fact NOT ruining family values.
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Personally i don't care if homos are in or not as long as they conduct themselves like soldiers in uniform or out of uniform.
are you sure about that statement?
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