[Title Fight Productions]

Originally Posted by sleepwalk

Soccer, softball, volleyball, swimming: These have all been sports that women have flocked to and done well in.

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Why do you think that is?


Seriously, im abit ashamed of all you in here. I guess i knew what i would find in this thread since it is on a mens dominated sport forum, but since when has "being treated equal" meant being over demanding?


Its pretty simple, women have been oppressed in sports for many, many years and something needed to be done. Can or should they tweek it a bit now? Yeah i have no problem with that....but for all of you to say Title IX is bullshit and no one likes women sports, and blah, blah, blah is embarrassing!

I hope you all have daughters who want to excell in sports and Title IX is not around.

[Title Fight Productions]

Originally Posted by 1000 yrd. stare

To all of you people who are not from the US - watch carefully as we become an androgynous bunch of pussies.

Or watch our women become empowered! Gosh how horrible would that be!??!

[KönigTiger]

A fucking shame. Why sacrifice one sport for a failure of another? (Even if it is womens)

[Piper]

Originally Posted by oldshadow

Shame it happens. Simple fix for this is to stop all this girls and guys sports crap. Make all sports co-ed.

I completely agree. The Supreme court, many years ago, struck down the segregation of schools in the the South. The court said the notion of "separate but equal" was impossible, and all students in public schools, thereafter, were not to be segregated.

The same should apply to the current segregation of school athletic programs by gender. There should be just one team/program for a sport. If someone, whether male of female, can make it on the team based on the objective athletic criteria, then they get cut. If they choose not to participate because they don't want to mix with the other gender, then that is their choice.

Also, while we are at it, 18 year old girls should be registered for the draft, just like boys are.

Every campus with a "Women's Studies" department or course should be compelled to ALSO have a "Men's Studies" department, etc.. If their either fund both or shut them down or have government funds, loans, etc., denied to those colleges.

What ever happened to equal justice under the law?

[sleepwalk]

Originally Posted by Title Fight Productions

Why do you think that is?


Seriously, im abit ashamed of all you in here. I guess i knew what i would find in this thread since it is on a mens dominated sport forum, but since when has "being treated equal" meant being over demanding?


Its pretty simple, women have been oppressed in sports for many, many years and something needed to be done. Can or should they tweek it a bit now? Yeah i have no problem with that....but for all of you to say Title IX is bullshit and no one likes women sports, and blah, blah, blah is embarrassing!

I hope you all have daughters who want to excell in sports and Title IX is not around.

Thank you for pointing out some of the logic problems in my previous post. The problem is not that women can't/shouldn't be athletes. The problem is that men's sports programs are being disbanded regardless of success rate and student-athletes are losing scholarships and opportunities for scholarships.

I am all for women's athletics. My one sister competed in college and the other was recruited but decided to forego it. Both find Title IX to be flawed and harmful to athletic programs. I trained side-by-side with female athletes in college on club teams. To me, a person, regardless of gender, who is fit and confident is in a better place than one who is not.

The problem is that the University of Miami has a women's swimming program but no men's swimming program. The problem is that a national powerhouse like ASU has cut it's wrestling program as so many others are. I would have no problem with fielding a wome's team to go with every men's team. I do have a problem with the idea that a sport that involves shin guards and a field hockey stick getting the same amount of funding as one that requires transporting 80 kids back and forth across the country with their helmets and pads every fall.

There needs to be an exception for football. If the school can field a women's football team, then fine. They can even get some of those scholarships. But have the need. In high school, I wore an eight-year-old uniform. Not a problem, it was getting dirty every Saturday anyway. But when the brand new girl's lacrosse team got to keep their uniforms, equipment and warm-ups, because they had to get new stuff next year to use the budget money? It just seemed a little weird. Not resentable, just weird.

[Title Fight Productions]

Originally Posted by sleepwalk

Thank you for pointing out some of the logic problems in my previous post. The problem is not that women can't/shouldn't be athletes. The problem is that men's sports programs are being disbanded regardless of success rate and student-athletes are losing scholarships and opportunities for scholarships.

I am all for women's athletics. My one sister competed in college and the other was recruited but decided to forego it. Both find Title IX to be flawed and harmful to athletic programs. I trained side-by-side with female athletes in college on club teams. To me, a person, regardless of gender, who is fit and confident is in a better place than one who is not.

The problem is that the University of Miami has a women's swimming program but no men's swimming program. The problem is that a national powerhouse like ASU has cut it's wrestling program as so many others are. I would have no problem with fielding a wome's team to go with every men's team. I do have a problem with the idea that a sport that involves shin guards and a field hockey stick getting the same amount of funding as one that requires transporting 80 kids back and forth across the country with their helmets and pads every fall.

There needs to be an exception for football. If the school can field a women's football team, then fine. They can even get some of those scholarships. But have the need. In high school, I wore an eight-year-old uniform. Not a problem, it was getting dirty every Saturday anyway. But when the brand new girl's lacrosse team got to keep their uniforms, equipment and warm-ups, because they had to get new stuff next year to use the budget money? It just seemed a little weird. Not resentable, just weird.

Yeah, Title IX may be a little flawed or outdated....but it something i think we can both argree on (unlike most in this thread) that was way overdue. My point to you was you named off 4 sports that girls "excell" or whatever at. My point is that women don't have the variety of sports programs that boys have growing up and this has alot to do with your point.

I would maybe be o.k. with a football exclusion. But really, college sports programs are not there to be "money makers"! Yes they have become that, but that was not the reason for allowing them in the first place. College sports are meant to help develope our young early adults for life after college.....and women should have just as many opportunities to be developed.

[omgitsrick]

Thats so retarded. Is this a ploy to get 8 million dollars or what?

[The Gem]

ASU is basically a half-step above University of Phoenix online. They let anyone get in. It would make sense then that they have a terrible endowment since non of their grads are really successful and thus they have to cut things for budget reasons.

Just another example of how the academic level of a school can kill its future. Maybe if ASU was a better school and actually had standards for admission it wioulndt happen.

[WrestlingNerd]

What's up with Title 9 and wrestling? There are girls that wrestle.

[Maximinus Thrax]

Chalk one more up for the feminists.