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Originally Posted by wvboy

Title IX has to be the dumbest thing ever. If the girls want sports then give them intermural sports. There is no need for a college to pay for a girls rugby team if they only draw 50 fans to an event. It just doesn't make sense.

I read something years ago that said that in an effort to comply with title 9, some schools were creating BS sports for women and handing out scholarships to chicks who had never played the sport before.

Compare that to guys who get D1 wrestling scholarships - a lifetime of dedication and truly one of the very best in the nation.

sickening.

Even with TV, they try to balance out womens college sports with mens. You have women's bball games aired when no one is in attendance and internationally you have them airing a women's wrestling match for every men's one, when no one gives a shit about women's wrestling. When international wrestling is shown, now you only get to see half the matches because the time is shared with the women competing

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Originally Posted by sleepwalk

Wrestling has overwhelmingly become the number one casualty of Title IX.

A few years back, Univeristy of Miami cut it's championship men's swimming and diving teams (along with rowing) to comply with this ridiculous edict.

I have had many a discussion with my sister, a former D-1 athlete, about this. She dramatically changed herThe fact of the matter is that the most expensive sport to produce, American football, is the one that has everyone buying those college logo T-shirts and bumper stickers.

Now, I went to Penn State University. PSU has a long standing history of success with our club teams (perennially top ranked in fencing, boxing and tae kwon do) and manages to put out consistent winners in football and various other sports for both genders with their athletic budget.

Fact-of-the-matter is that gymnastics, lacrosse, swimming and wrestling (among others) are in a real danger unless some type of reform is made to Title IX. Let's see how this possible reform gets spun into being some sort of regression of pushing women into the kitchen again.

459 colleges have dropped wrestling since colleges have made ridiculous efforts to comply

"No person in the United States shall, on the basis of sex, be excluded from participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination under any education program or activity receiving Federal financial assistance."

Prong one - Providing athletic opportunities that are substantially proportionate to the student enrollment, OR
Prong two - Demonstrate a continual expansion of athletic opportunities for the underrepresented sex, OR
Prong three - Full and effective accommodation of the interest and ability of underrepresented sex.

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Originally Posted by wvboy

Title IX has to be the dumbest thing ever. If the girls want sports then give them intermural sports. There is no need for a college to pay for a girls rugby team if they only draw 50 fans to an event. It just doesn't make sense.

I wouldn't even have a problem if they just didn't draw crowds or didn't generate revenue, I don't feel that's not what college sports (or any sports) should really be about. The problem is that they have a hard time fielding these teams.

Soccer, softball, volleyball, swimming: These have all been sports that women have flocked to and done well in.

Lacrosse, ice hockey, crew rowing: These sports are being created for women and being taken away for men. Tennis and golf are also in this category although the competitors and their families are helping keep them afloat.

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Originally Posted by sleepwalk

I wouldn't even have a problem if they just didn't draw crowds or didn't generate revenue, I don't feel that's not what college sports (or any sports) should really be about. The problem is that they have a hard time fielding these teams.

Soccer, softball, volleyball, swimming: These have all been sports that women have flocked to and done well in.

Lacrosse, ice hockey, crew rowing: These sports are being created for women and being taken away for men. Tennis and golf are also in this category although the competitors and their families are helping keep them afloat.

Right, they start looking at equal budgets, equal scholarships, equal facilities.

These schools want to keep the big revenue sports, so instead of adding crap women's sports, they comply by cancelling mens sports.

Within the past year, Phil Knight got Oregon to bring back baseball (Nike sponsors their sports). They introduced baseball on the same day they announced they were canning wrestling. They had a national champion the year before.

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Wtf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!

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Yea, my old roomate gets interviewed here about it.

Yahoo!

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Originally Posted by oldshadow

Shame it happens. Simple fix for this is to stop all this girls and guys sports crap. Make all sports co-ed.

yeah that sounds great but what about at 197 or heavy. The prospect is frightnening!!!!!!

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I understand if a University was purposely discriminating against women. But if they can't get a women's team because they can't find enough women, what good does taking away the men's team do?

Couldn't they just recruit some random women for the team? Get any chick of the street, the minimum number for them to produce a team, require them the minimum hours to train, give em a scholarship for their time, and boom, you have a team.

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Originally Posted by canadapride

I understand if a University was purposely discriminating against women. But if they can't get a women's team because they can't find enough women, what good does taking away the men's team do?

Couldn't they just recruit some random women for the team? Get any chick of the street, the minimum number for them to produce a team, require them the minimum hours to train, give em a scholarship for their time, and boom, you have a team.

The school has more women then men, so sports have to reflect that in headcount and budgetary dollars.

Correct, they could open new womens facilities and offer new scholarships for women, or they can take them away for men. Wrestling is not a sport that makes schools a lot of money (none in most cases) so they choose not to expand womens sports, just contract the mens sports.

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To all of you people who are not from the US - watch carefully as we become an androgynous bunch of pussies.