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Old 08-29-2008, 12:49 AM   #1 (permalink)

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Clinton

I think this is a great topic. Anytime something gos wrong the Left always says remember the Clinton years.

Many people on here I doubt really remember the Clinton years.

I really don't think he was a great President. Clinton was able to get a lot done because he had to meet the Republicans in the middle. It was the Republicans that fought tooth and nail to balance the budget, they forced Bill Clinton to lower taxe when he verbaly said he didn't want to. The first couple years of his Presidency he got very little done, and he botched Somalia. As a guy in the military I saw first hand how he mismanaged us.

Osama Bin Laden arrived on the scene in the Clinton early days. Osama was the reason for the Somalia attack and the first world trade center attack. Yet Bill Clinton did nothing to get him, and he went on to cause 911.

The last two years of Clintons Presidency he was nolonger faced with a Republican Congress. He was lame duck at best, and he mismanaged a stock market that collapsed just a few months after his departure.

Almost a year later the twin towers were destroyed (a major economic building). Bush inherited a weak market and now had a war to fight. We nolonger had this surplus that Bill keeps mentioning he gave to Bush.

Those without short memorys know Bill was a rock star President that arrived after the cold war. Everyone wanted to forget the past.

What if Bill did his Job?

Why do you think he was or wasn't a good President.
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Billion dollar surplus, surging economy. What more do you want?

People forget that Clinton was very middle of the road. He was far from being way out left. He was great at bi-partisanship with the Republican house.

That's why I have some hope for McCain. A middle of the road guy, who has history of bi-partisanship.
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...Just kidding. I was too young to really know politics when Clinton when president, but my parents were better off when he was president than they are now.

CJF has a point about McCain. I supported him because I truly thought he was reasonable and bi-partisan. But this new McCain seems to have sold out. If he wins, I hope he reverts back to the old McCain and kicks ass.
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I was too young as well to really know too much about him, but from what I have been told he sucked and is crooked as hell. One story for instance,

He decided to implement a luxury tax on yachts thinking, if people are rich enough to buy a yacht, they are rich enough to pay the tax. What happened? People stopped buying yachts and plants got closed down and jobs were lost.
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Billion dollar surplus, surging economy. What more do you want?

People forget that Clinton was very middle of the road. He was far from being way out left. He was great at bi-partisanship with the Republican house.

That's why I have some hope for McCain. A middle of the road guy, who has history of bi-partisanship.
McCain has adopted Phil Gram's economic policy - that is nowhere near middle of the road. It's what our country has been sputtering on for the last 8 years.

McCain the Maverick is a myth. He's gone. He's sold out to the radical right of the current Republican party.
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Bubba was ok by me. I didn't vote for him, but how can you complain about the overall results while he was dug in.

Who else can say they were president when there was a budget surplus.

He is actually the closest thing we've had to a fiscal conservative in practice.

Bubba's record slaps Bush's around, but that's not saying much.
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he didn't invade and occupy a country on false pretenses

he was a good pres in my book
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I think this is a great topic. Anytime something gos wrong the Left always says remember the Clinton years.

Many people on here I doubt really remember the Clinton years.

I really don't think he was a great President. Clinton was able to get a lot done because he had to meet the Republicans in the middle. It was the Republicans that fought tooth and nail to balance the budget, they forced Bill Clinton to lower taxe when he verbaly said he didn't want to. The first couple years of his Presidency he got very little done, and he botched Somalia. As a guy in the military I saw first hand how he mismanaged us.

Osama Bin Laden arrived on the scene in the Clinton early days. Osama was the reason for the Somalia attack and the first world trade center attack. Yet Bill Clinton did nothing to get him, and he went on to cause 911.

The last two years of Clintons Presidency he was nolonger faced with a Republican Congress. He was lame duck at best, and he mismanaged a stock market that collapsed just a few months after his departure.

Almost a year later the twin towers were destroyed (a major economic building). Bush inherited a weak market and now had a war to fight. We nolonger had this surplus that Bill keeps mentioning he gave to Bush.

Those without short memorys know Bill was a rock star President that arrived after the cold war. Everyone wanted to forget the past.

What if Bill did his Job?

Why do you think he was or wasn't a good President.
Without term limits Clinton would still be president today.
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I think this is a great topic. Anytime something gos wrong the Left always says remember the Clinton years.

Many people on here I doubt really remember the Clinton years.

I really don't think he was a great President. Clinton was able to get a lot done because he had to meet the Republicans in the middle. It was the Republicans that fought tooth and nail to balance the budget, they forced Bill Clinton to lower taxe when he verbaly said he didn't want to. The first couple years of his Presidency he got very little done, and he botched Somalia. As a guy in the military I saw first hand how he mismanaged us.

Osama Bin Laden arrived on the scene in the Clinton early days. Osama was the reason for the Somalia attack and the first world trade center attack. Yet Bill Clinton did nothing to get him, and he went on to cause 911.

The last two years of Clintons Presidency he was nolonger faced with a Republican Congress. He was lame duck at best, and he mismanaged a stock market that collapsed just a few months after his departure.

Almost a year later the twin towers were destroyed (a major economic building). Bush inherited a weak market and now had a war to fight. We nolonger had this surplus that Bill keeps mentioning he gave to Bush.

Those without short memorys know Bill was a rock star President that arrived after the cold war. Everyone wanted to forget the past.

What if Bill did his Job?

Why do you think he was or wasn't a good President.
I love this new trend of historical revisionism.

Are you really as stupid as you seem? You believe that everything good that happened under Clinton was due to Republicans, and everything bad that happened under Bush was due to Clinton.

Blaming 9/11 on Clinton is also incredibly dumb. He had no support to invade Afghanistan or chase OBL around the world. It was a small threat, and he got no direct intelligence of large terrorist threats against the US or imminent threats about to be carried out. UNLIKE BUSH!

Clinton handled himself great, cared for his country first, which presidents hadn't done in a long time and also boosted our image world-wide. His government improved foreign relations and although he didn't manage to settle the Israel-Palestine conflict, he was damn close.

This bullshit you Republicans have started now with comparing Democrats to celebrities and somehow inducing that they are worse politicians for it is undignified and makes us look bad in the eyes of the world. Some people are stupid enough to fall for it, and thinks we are a joke because we have "celebrities" in politics. Other people are smart enough to see it for the ridiculous smear attacks it is, and thinks our politics are nothing but baseless attacks that appeal to the lowest common denominator.

It's time that the Democrats stand up for America again as they did during Clinton and show the world that the US of A are not a nation of hillbillies, rednecks and shameless sleaze balls but rather a dignified and intellectual place where everyone can reach the highest places with the right mind and work ethic.

Fuck revisionism.

Fuck Republicans.

And fuck 4 more years of failed policies that made our country worse.
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