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04-16-2008, 11:00 PM
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It appears that the school re-thought what they've done so I don't see the big deal.
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04-16-2008, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Shogun87
Are you guys fucking serious? If I was in class and my dad in Iraq called and the teacher tried to take my phone away I would probably drop the ****. Seriously, the dad could die tomorrow and the son could never talk to him ever again. I think thats complete bullshit.
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I agree. Rules are made by people for a purpose ... not to exist independent of human situations. I don't think the student violated the purpose of the rule. Intelligent people should be able to understand the situation and make an exception. It would be like having a rule that said "no talking while the teacher is talking" and punishing a student that screamed for help due to some kind of accident or incident. Yes, they are breaking the letter of the law but any reasonable person can see that there are common sense exceptions to these rules.
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04-16-2008, 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by GermanBJJ
I agree. Rules are made by people for a purpose ... not to exist independent of human situations. I don't think the student violated the purpose of the rule. Intelligent people should be able to understand the situation and make an exception. It would be like having a rule that said "no talking while the teacher is talking" and punishing a student that screamed for help due to some kind of accident or incident. Yes, they are breaking the letter of the law but any reasonable person can see that there are common sense exceptions to these rules.
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So you're putting the onus upon the teacher to have to make a split second decision on weather the rule infraction is justified?
I'm sure the school would've allowed the student to speak with his father had the father called the school, and not his son's cell phone, during school hours.
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04-17-2008, 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by balance
So you're putting the onus upon the teacher to have to make a split second decision on weather the rule infraction is justified?
I'm sure the school would've allowed the student to speak with his father had the father called the school, and not his son's cell phone, during school hours.
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Split second decision? Was he or she defusing a bomb at the same time? The decision to suspend the kid from the school wasn't made by the teacher; it was made by the administration. No split second decision was required. It probably occurred days later and after the administration was made aware that the dad cleared the call with the assistant principal.
As to the phone call in class itself, when the teacher was informed that the call was from a dad in Iraq by the student, the teacher could have asked the student to take the call outside and continued class. Problem solved.
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04-17-2008, 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by RemoWilliams
Flip this ****** now, and ask yourself if this is a kid who had a cell phone in San Francisco who's dad was on death row in CA and about to be executed?
In that Liberal hub? Would they have "bended the rules"?
More than likely.
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In that liberal hub, that kid's Dad would have been on death row for 20 years and he would have finished school by the time of the execution.
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Last edited by axecutioner; 04-17-2008 at 06:36 AM.
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04-17-2008, 03:13 AM
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Supposedly the father had made an arrangement with the school prior to his leaving for the son to have the cell phone in class.
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04-17-2008, 03:46 AM
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The kid should have just socked the "highschool official" in the face. That way it would have gotten more attention and he probably would have looked like the hero, got public support and let off of whatever punishment. Plus a free punch.
This is America today, not a police state, just a country of yuppies who obey dumb ass laws in fear for their jobs. I'm sure if the guy just said "Oh, your dad in Iraq? you can go outside for a couple minutes." the world would have ended and there would have been total extreme dad in iraq calling anarchy.
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04-17-2008, 03:53 AM
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BTW in response to the San Fran post, the highschool official was obviously a flaming, lispy, liberal. When conservatives ran this country you could rent a 30-06 at lunch break and call whoever you wanted. And you didn't have to worry about shootings because bisexual goth exchange students pumped up on psychotic prescriptions for "deprssion" (which liberals pretend is a curable illness, even if theres no evidence of chemical imbalance in the patient) didn't exist. Only twitchy liberals with inferiority complexes follow obviously pointless rules in fear of their jobs. Fact. I wish General Patton posted here, he'd agree with me. Damn liberals.
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Last edited by Eugenicist; 04-17-2008 at 04:07 AM.
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04-17-2008, 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by GermanBJJ
As to the phone call in class itself, when the teacher was informed that the call was from a dad in Iraq by the student, the teacher could have asked the student to take the call outside and continued class. Problem solved.
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So now every jack-ass can take calls in class and claim it is their dad calling from Iraq? Phones going off in class are a huge distraction and schools should have a right to ban their use in the classroom. Teachers should not have to be put in the position of investigating the justification for taking calls.
It is not like modern soldiers are completely out of touch with their families for months at a time. I have seen Special Forces teams in the middle of nowhere in Afghanistan who can email or IM their families on almost a daily basis.
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04-17-2008, 04:55 AM
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On one hand, I can see Thrilli's point, on the other though I understand what its like to be away from those you love for a very long time and how important it is to get some kind of response from the outside world when you're under incredible stress in hairy situations.
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