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04-22-2008, 08:43 AM
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Supreme Court needs to rule on McCain's "natural born" status.
The US Supreme Court needs to rule on whether John McCain is qualified to run for President. McCain was born in Panama on LEASED land that in now leased by the Chinese. I don't think that qualifies as "Natural born". IF the SC court rules in favor of McCain does that mean all people born on leased land is a "natural born citizen"? That would also include all land leased by all American corporations as they now have the same Rights under the Constitution as the American people. Here is Article 2 of the US Constitution: " No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President" End Quote.
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04-22-2008, 08:48 AM
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The US Supreme Court needs to rule on whether John McCain is qualified to run for President. McCain was born in Panama on LEASED land that in now leased by the Chinese. I don't think that qualifies as "Natural born". IF the SC court rules in favor of McCain does that mean all people born on leased land is a "natural born citizen"? That would also include all land leased by all American corporations as they now have the same Rights under the Constitution as the American people. Here is Article 2 of the US Constitution: " No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President" End Quote.
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Bird - this is lame. The "now leased by the Chinese" comment has no relevance.
He was born on a US military base to American parents. In no way will they want to conclude that people serving overseas have kids who are ineligible
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04-22-2008, 09:06 AM
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Bird - this is lame. The "now leased by the Chinese" comment has no relevance.
He was born on a US military base to American parents. In no way will they want to conclude that people serving overseas have kids who are ineligible
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That is a myth he was NOT born on a military base but land leased by the US Gov. Don't you want the SC to rule on this issue? They might rule for McCain and that would be fine but the American people at least deserve a Ruling since Article 2 plainly states "Natural Born" and I am not sure leased land is considered Natural Born are you? I know McCain is old but he wasn't a citizen at the time of the Adoption of the Constitution so that means he must qualify under the Natural Born status. I don't like ignoring the Constitution I don't know why so many just want to ignore the Con. and not have a Ruling??? OT why is part of your name blocked out when you are quoted?
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04-22-2008, 09:09 AM
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shit didn't work. my bad
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04-22-2008, 09:10 AM
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I assume he was born in a hospital for military employees. I am sure the intention of the constitution was not to exclude the babies of parents born overseas when their parents were serving the US Military.
****l somehow is automatically edited like a bad word - weird
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04-22-2008, 09:18 AM
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The first Congress enacted a citizenship law (Act of March 26, 1790, Chapter 3, Section 1, Statute 104) that stated “the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens.”
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04-22-2008, 09:25 AM
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I assume he was born in a hospital for military employees. I am sure the intention of the constitution was not to exclude the babies of parents born overseas when their parents were serving the US Military.
****l somehow is automatically edited like a bad word - weird
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Your assumption would be wrong as McCain was born and I quote "U.S. Senator John McCain's Birth Certificate states he was born in Colon, Republic of Panama which was never part of the Panama Canal Zone." so his Birth Certificate says he was born in Colon which was NEVER part of the Panama Canal Zone. Do you now think the US SC should rule on McCain "Natural Born" status? BTW you can still be a citizen but not be Natural Born. May 28th a Lawyer in Cal. (a Reub) filed a case that the Court should rule on McCain's status. The only way it will be settled is in the SC. Must be a bad word in computer talk.
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04-22-2008, 09:28 AM
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The first Congress enacted a citizenship law (Act of March 26, 1790, Chapter 3, Section 1, Statute 104) that stated “the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens.”
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Good Point IF that Law wasn't suspended in 1795!!!
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04-22-2008, 09:58 AM
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Good Point IF that Law wasn't suspended in 1795!!!
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Source?
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04-22-2008, 10:08 AM
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From the footnote you didn't read: The 1790 law remained in effect until the Naturalization Act of 1795 superseded it. The 1795 law stated that the children of citizens of the United States who are born outside the limits of the country "shall be considered as citizens of the United States." End Quote from wiki.
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