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Old 05-13-2008, 10:02 AM   #11 (permalink)

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Hemp Biomass for Energy

Hemp can do bio-diesel and also ethanol, it is very rare, usually a plant do one or another but not both.
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Old 05-13-2008, 10:10 AM   #12 (permalink)

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Hemp Biomass for Energy

Hemp can do bio-diesel and also ethanol, it is very rare, usually a plant do one or another but not both.
That is very detailed here is one part I found intresting they are talking about California: "Employment

Employment for hemp production, calculated at one worker per 40 acres farmed[xvi], results in a total of 1,700 to 4,275 new jobs, if 10% of California’s cropland is put into production of cannabis hemp. These jobs are created across all traditional agricultural employment sectors, upon full development of the system.



The processing plants will also create new jobs in these areas[xvii]:



· Administrative & Sales – 15 to 25 per facility

· Research & Development – 25 to 50 statewide

· Engineering & Technical – 75 to 100 statewide

· Construction & Maintenance – 150 to 300 statewide

· Transportation & Material Handling – 10 to 20 per facility

· General Labor – 25 to 50 per facility" End Quote that's alot of jobs created for an industry that has zero jobs now.
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Old 05-13-2008, 10:16 AM   #13 (permalink)

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That is ok but here are 2 guys from the Science channel making hempoline The Science Channel :: Video :: Cool Fuel Exclusive Video .
Haha, they call it hempoline, funny.

However they are not doing it right though.

They are mixing bio-diesel with alcohol (ethanol or methanol), where they should focus only in one kind of fuel, either bio-diesel or alcohol.
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Haha, they call it hempoline, funny.

However they are not doing it right though.

They are mixing bio-diesel with alcohol (ethanol or methanol), where they should focus only in one kind of fuel, either bio-diesel or alcohol.
And we're still on Gasoline why?
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Haha, they call it hempoline, funny.

However they are not doing it right though.

They are mixing bio-diesel with alcohol (ethanol or methanol), where they should focus only in one kind of fuel, either bio-diesel or alcohol.
I think Henry Ford calling it Hempoline in the 30's that's why they call it that. I think it is for cost efficiency because they are not mass producing it. The Germans also ran some of their military vehicles on alternative fuels in the 30's as well. Ford wanted to grow a car from the ground and then have it return to the ground. Hemp resin is as good as plastic and will degrade over time unlike plastic.
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I think Henry Ford calling it Hempoline in the 30's that's why they call it that. I think it is for cost efficiency because they are not mass producing it. The Germans also ran some of their military vehicles on alternative fuels in the 30's as well. Ford wanted to grow a car from the ground and then have it return to the ground. Hemp resin is as good as plastic and will degrade over time unlike plastic.
the germans in the 30s also received funding from ford... but that's another discussion.


I wonder what happened to all those ideas?
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Indy cars runs 100% methanol.

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Indy cars runs 100% methanol.

fucking PWNT... Now how do I modify my Toyota Matrix[Team Quest edition mind you] to run off it?
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The high performance fuels are not obtained with a net energy gain. They burn more rapidly but there is no advantage to switching to methanol.

Hemp is not the answer. It takes energy to harvest (like corn, switchgrass and all other crops). Now, you run into the azeotrope problem that I keep preaching about and people keep ignoring. It's it a fundamental chemical property of water/ethanol mixtures being turned into fuel.

It won't work. Ethanol simply isn't the answer and will never be unless you're cracking it for the hydrogen and even then, there are more efficient ways of obtaining hydrogen.
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