[Ezra Pound]

Why sure, those pesky Iranians are making these weapons and stamping dates, times and Iranian places of manufacture right on the weapons. Right.

More likely, those weapons came from that blood soaked country to the West of Iraq, the same one that wants Iran destroyed by the U.S. because they "think" Iran is a threat.

This is similar to the song and dance routine that led up to the invasion of Iraq, with more lies and falsehoods, but this time, the criminal Bush/Cheney Junta is hiding behind the stars and decorations of their hand-picked generals.

US officials: Decision on confronting Iran up to Iraq

By ROBERT BURNS Associated Press Writer

Apr 30th, 2008 | WASHINGTON -- Iraqi leaders have been given the latest U.S. evidence of Iranian support for militias inside Iraq, and Baghdad will decide what to do about it, two senior Pentagon officials said Wednesday.

Marine Lt. Gen. John Sattler, director of strategy, plans and policy for the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki possesses the evidence, which other officials said contradicts Tehran's stated commitment to stop providing arms, weapons technology and training to Shiite militias inside Iraq.

"It's in Prime Minister al-Maliki's hands right now, the evidence as to whether or not he's been lied to — bald-faced lied to — by the Iranian government," Sattler told a Pentagon news conference.

"The evidence inside Baghdad has been shared with the Iraqi leadership, and that's where it stands right now," he added.

The Iraqi leaders are hoping to pressure Iran to stop aiding militias by presenting Tehran with the latest evidence, another senior defense official said. The official, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the information, said it's not clear whether the Iranians have agreed to meet to discuss the evidence. But the official said the Iraqis want to press the Iranians to stop.

CIA Director Michael Hayden said Wednesday that Iran's policy is to help kill Americans in Iraq. Hayden made the statement in response to a student question while speaking at Kansas State University.

"It is my opinion, it is the policy of the Iranian government, approved to highest level of that government, to facilitate the killing of Americans in Iraq," Hayden said.

U.S. military officials have said its evidence that Iran is aiding Iraqi militias includes caches of weapons that have date stamps showing they were produced in Iran this year. The weapons include mortars, rockets, small arms, roadside bombs and armor-piercing explosives — known as explosively formed penetrators, or EFPs — that troops have discovered in recent months, according to another senior military official who spoke on condition of anonymity because the evidence has not yet been made public.

According to one official, plans for U.S. officials to publicly present the evidence of Iranian support for the militias have been delayed to give the Iraqis time to speak directly to Tehran about the problem.

Defense Secretary Robert Gates and other U.S. government officials have asserted that Iranian-trained Iraqi Shiite militiamen are carrying out attacks in Baghdad and elsewhere in Iraq — using weapons supplied by Iran — that are killing not only Iraqis but U.S. troops as well.

Appearing with Sattler at the Pentagon was the Joint Chiefs' operations chief, Army Lt. Gen. Carter Ham, who said the Iraqis will play "a leading role" in determining how to deal with the problem.

"The government of Iran ... made a commitment to stem the flow of fighters and material from Iran into Iraq," Ham said, adding that U.S. military commanders in Baghdad "have stated that they're not seeing evidence that that is, in fact, the case. I think it now is a matter for the government of Iraq."

Asked more directly what the U.S. government intends to do about the Iranian actions in Iraq, Ham replied, "Clearly the Iraqis have a leading role, but it is necessarily an international effort to which the United States clearly is a significant factor in this."

Adm. Michael Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said last week that U.S. officials in Baghdad planned to publicly release evidence of continuing lethal Iranian assistance to militias inside Iraq. That plan is on hold to give the Iraqis time to speak directly to Tehran about the problem, one official said.

Gates said Tuesday that the U.S. is not laying the groundwork for an attack against Iran.

Addressing the same issue, Sattler said he knows of "no order or stepped-up effort to plan" for military action against Iran, adding that in his position as head of planning for the Joint Chiefs, he would know.

The U.S. briefly had two Navy aircraft carriers in the Persian Gulf this week — a move that Gates said Tuesday could be seen as a "reminder" to Iran. The Pentagon has routinely said that moving ships to the Gulf is a way of showing countries there that the U.S. remains committed to the region.

The USS Abraham Lincoln entered the Gulf in a normal rotation of forces, and the USS Harry Truman and its battle group began heading toward their home base at Norfolk, Va., officials said. Ham said the two carriers were together in the Gulf for only a day, and that they conducted joint air exercises in the northern Gulf.

[Salbass]

It's a good thing some of the candidates are running on a peace platform.

Oh wait, never mind.

[Pridelives]

"It is my opinion, it is the policy of the Iranian government, approved to highest level of that government, to facilitate the killing of Americans in Iraq," Hayden said.


What a fucking lie!

They want to control Iraq with a Shia majority, they want to control the region, they are not hell bent on killing Americans.

Do you people from the U.S still buy this propaganda?

[InternetHero]

Originally Posted by Pridelives

"It is my opinion, it is the policy of the Iranian government, approved to highest level of that government, to facilitate the killing of Americans in Iraq," Hayden said.


What a fucking lie!

They want to control Iraq with a Shia majority, they want to control the region, they are not hell bent on killing Americans.

Do you people from the U.S still buy this propaganda?

Yeah right, and all those tons of Iranian munitions magically appeared in the Shiite and Sunni insurgent weapons stockpiles.

Fail.

[Ezra Pound]

Originally Posted by Salbass

It's a good thing some of the candidates are running on a peace platform.

Oh wait, never mind.

LOL, democracy works

What did you get dubbs for? you're pretty passive mang.

[Pridelives]

Originally Posted by InternetHero

Yeah right, and all those tons of Iranian munitions magically appeared in the Shiite and Sunni insurgent weapons stockpiles.

Fail.

No you fail idiot.

I'm not denying their support for shia militias, You must be some kind of schizophrenic moron to take that from my post.

[Salbass]

Originally Posted by Ezra Pound

LOL, democracy works

What did you get dubbs for? you're pretty passive mang.

No idea, I don't recall trolling any more than usual

[GermanBJJ]

Originally Posted by InternetHero

Yeah right, and all those tons of Iranian munitions magically appeared in the Shiite and Sunni insurgent weapons stockpiles.

Fail.

And you don't know if they are even there or where they came from either. You state it as a fact but some foreign governments (including Britain) have contradicted US claims of weaponry coming from Iran. I am not saying Iran isn't giving support and weapons, I am just saying (a) the evidence we have right now isn't very clear-cut and (b) the evidence we haven't been told about hasn't been released.

When that evidence is released, we can evaluation possible solutions to that problem. But given our past mistakes, I think it is prudent to be more suspicious and cautious about weapons claims going forward.

[InternetHero]

Originally Posted by Pridelives

No you fail idiot.

I'm not denying their support for shia militias, You must be some kind of schizophrenic moron to take that from my post.

Watch the personal attacks blah blah blah read the WR rules again "genius".

Pridelivies:"They want to control Iraq with a Shia majority, they want to control the region, they are not hell bent on killing Americans."

That's damn well what they are trying to do and that's why they are pumping the weapons in there and have been stirring things up since the beginning.

[InternetHero]

Originally Posted by GermanBJJ

And you don't know if they are even there or where they came from either. You state it as a fact but some foreign governments (including Britain) have contradicted US claims of weaponry coming from Iran. I am not saying Iran isn't giving support and weapons, I am just saying (a) the evidence we have right now isn't very clear-cut and (b) the evidence we haven't been told about hasn't been released.

When that evidence is released, we can evaluation possible solutions to that problem. But given our past mistakes, I think it is prudent to be more suspicious and cautious about weapons claims going forward.

Fair enough. I'm not sure the British have "disputed" the claims as much as they have disputed some claims. And seeing as the reports keep coming and the evidence has been mounting rather than decreasing that points to Iranian involvement (A lot of Iranian involvement at that.) I believe the intelligence, and I find it hard to believe that the Bush Administration would choose now to attack Iran (Because here is no way in hell the U.S. would invade. Note: It is not militarily viable to any "brilliant" CT WR poster who would argue otherwise.) when it would

A. Not be politically popular at-all in the U.S. and B. When despite Iran's provocations the U.S. has been much more successful of late in Iraq.