[CC's left foot]

Well, dylanransom, I guess it's time to change that sig

http://truthseeds.org/2007/11/19/ron...st-zogby-poll/

Ron Paul wins Latest Zogby Poll

Ron Paul has won the latest nationwide Zogby Poll. Based on the tabular data provided by Zogby, Ron Paul took the top spot with a commanding 32.8% of the policy based on the ‘blind-bio’ questions of the spread poll. The results are based on a non-bias, three-question set and the typical scientific polling methodology of sampling, interviewing, weighting and sampling error, or margin of error.

$4,500 dollars was paid by the sponsor for the Zogby poll. Zogby requires an additional fee for a press release, which the sponsor, Jones Productions is considering in addition to its own reporting. They are considering paying for another poll through Mason-Dixon or Rasmussen to demonstrate that Ron Paul can win polls when they aren’t bias.

The predominant group targeted by the phone polling was hard-line Republicans. The biographies of the candidates were attribute , political platform and issue-substantiated and provided by Zogby. The war was the defining issue and people overwhelmingly support bringing the troops home from Iraq, with 49% wanting immediate withdrawal, 41% want to stay the course and 10% were unsure.

In the ‘blind-bio’ poll, which serves to discuss the issues and policies of the candidates without the nameplate, Ron Paul is the big winner with a 32.8% share with Giuliani following at 18.6%. As reported here, each candidate was represented ‘blindly’:

Candidate A is a 10-term US Congressman from a large Southern state who is an advocate for a smaller government and individual liberty. This candidate believes in strictly following the Constitution and has never voted to raise taxes. He has never voted in favor of the war in Iraq or the Patriot Act, and wants to bring troops home as soon as possible. As a former doctor, this candidate has delivered more than 4,000 babies. One of this candidate’s goals is to return America to the gold standard, and he believes that the current monetary policy needs to be drastically overhauled because of the dollar’s decline.

Candidate B is a former governor from a Democratic state in the Northeast. Before that, he was credited for essentially saving the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City. He is a Mormon and family man who is considered a moderate-to-conservative member of the GOP. While Governor, he signed the first state laws in the nation requiring all citizens of this state to obtain health insurance. He is a strong supporter of keeping troops in Iraq although he has been critical of how the war has been handled.

Candidate C is a former two-term senator from a Southern state who was a long-time lobbyist before running for public office. He was chief Republican council for the Congressional committee that investigated Watergate in the early 1970s. He was an actor playing supporting roles in several major motion pictures before entering the Senate, and returned to a prominent role as a New York City prosecutor in a popular network television series after leaving office. He has mostly supported the war in Iraq, but has said he would have managed it differently.

Candidate D is a former two-term mayor of a major city in the Northeast, and is considered a moderate member of the party on social issues. As Mayor, he presided over a dramatic drop in crime in his city, and is best known for his leadership in the aftermath of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. He established a worldwide security consulting business after leaving public office at the end of 2001 He has been a supporter of President Bush since leaving office and supports the war in Iraq.



And the results:


Over 70% of respondents reported that they do not use YouTube, Facebook or MySpace, suggesting that this is not the ‘Internet-sensation’ crowd so often reported as Paul’s base of support. The demographics show strong and balanced support in both rural and urban areas and in all age groups.

These results mirror polling from debates and on-line where Paul consistently wins when the issues are discussed.

[greenpower]

Those Ron Paul hackers and bots are getting really good!

[DanKO]

What HAVEN'T polls said?

I've heard every candidate brag about how they're winning in the latest poll results. It doesn't mean jack to me. Only 1 poll matters, and that is next year, where Ron Paul won't be on the minds of 90% of the Republican voters.

[takeahnase]

Great blind poll.

Candidate A...for privacy's sake let's call him...R. Paul. No, that's too obvious...uuuh, let's say Ron P...

[Leagon]

Its not really that blind, though. Wouldn't take much thought to figure out who the Mormon is and who led after 9/11.

And putting Paul first probably helped him get some votes from lazy readers.

Interesting, though.

[MMAFan123]

Yeah... in the description they left out a lot of the things that might have turned people off to R. Paul - wants to abolish public schools, wants to work towards privatizing fire, police forces, social security, etc.

It probably sounds more palatable to the hard-core Republicans targetted when you say "small government"... but if they put in the full extent of his views I think many would balk.

[Executioner]

This is getting scary for me. As much as I want Ron Paul to win, I fear his impending assassination if he actually does.

[shoffma1999]

Originally Posted by MMAFan123

Yeah... in the description they left out a lot of the things that might have turned people off to R. Paul - wants to abolish public schools, wants to work towards privatizing fire, police forces, social security, etc.

It probably sounds more palatable to the hard-core Republicans targetted when you say "small government"... but if they put in the full extent of his views I think many would balk.

Are you serious? You obviously do not know what the fuck you are talking about. Ron Paul doesn’t want to do any of those things (except for working toward ending the social security system - eventually). He wants the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT out of them. The Constitution does not permit the Federal Government to engage in these types of activities. It is a State/Local job, which is what Ron Paul supports. People really need to be clear on what his stances are before spouting off a bunch of nonsense. That is the same shit the media constantly pulls, i.e. refusing to call him a Republican and instead referring to him as a libertarian - yet the guy has served 20 fucking years in Congress as a REPUBLICAN! People need to pull their fucking heads out of their asses.

[DanKO]

The fact is all online polls will be in Ron Pauls favor. Have you seen what his followers are doing? When a poll is created they swarm to the website and vote over and over and over. The accuracy is literally off by 30%+ , which doesn't even make it a poll. Even in blind polls this happens.

Ron Paul - 51% of the votes
Barack Obama - at 4% of the votes

Amazing

http://fantasypoliticsusa.com/game/i...hp?action=vote

Edit: And if you call that a blind study you are a fool.

[Leagon]

Originally Posted by shoffma1999

Are you serious? You obviously do not know what the fuck you are talking about. Ron Paul doesn’t want to do any of those things (except for working toward ending the social security system - eventually). He wants the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT out of them. The Constitution does not permit the Federal Government to engage in these types of activities. It is a State/Local job, which is what Ron Paul supports. People really need to be clear on what his stances are before spouting off a bunch of nonsense. That is the same shit the media constantly pulls, i.e. refusing to call him a Republican and instead referring to him as a libertarian - yet the guy has served 20 fucking years in Congress as a REPUBLICAN! People need to pull their fucking heads out of their asses.

With posts like that, who would ever dislike Ron Paul supporters?

Also, MMAFan, they didn't touch on the perceived "negatives" of any of the candidates. It was more of a summary than a detailed explanation.