[t-dizzle]

Originally Posted by Darwinist

Thompson could only save a few people because by the time he got onto the ground there were very few people left to save. He actually threatened to open fire on the Americal troops, including people who outranked him.

I think the photographer hitched a ride with the medevac chopper Thompson called for.

One of my personal heroes. I made a thread about him some time ago:http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showth...gh+Thompson+Jr

wow that guy was amazing. Truely a genuine hero.

[mesomorph]

Originally Posted by USAMMAFAN

thats because the vietnamese "communist" were more nationalist in nature then anything

they just wanted to expel foreign and colonial influences

they asked for our help in getting rid of the french, we turned our backs on them, so they then went to the soviets and became "communist"

vietnam was a war of national liberation more then a communist movment

This is what pretty much always happens. That's why the talk of bombing Iran and thus embarrassing the leaders would lead to an uprising of the people against those leaders, is so ridiculous.

When foreign forces attack a country, it tends to unite the people against them, despite earlier differences etc. That's what happened in Finland as well when the Soviets attacked. There had been a bloody civil war between the "reds" & "whites", and still a lot of tension between those "sides". But the country united 100% against the invasion.

[mesomorph]

Originally Posted by Darwinist

Thompson could only save a few people because by the time he got onto the ground there were very few people left to save. He actually threatened to open fire on the Americal troops, including people who outranked him.

I think the photographer hitched a ride with the medevac chopper Thompson called for.

One of my personal heroes. I made a thread about him some time ago:http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showth...gh+Thompson+Jr

Right, I saw the 60 minutes story about him, but I don't remember them saying anything about him threatening to open fire. Dude had some balls for sure.

[icantstandit]

Originally Posted by ABACA

Communists didn't do shit in Vietnam, like they didn't do shit anywhere they had power.
Free markets = economic growth. The Vietnamese realized this, and they are in the process of becoming capitalists

Communism is a political system of governance. Capitalism and socialism are two economic systems. Two different things.

Communism is not entirely antithetical to capitalism, as we see with China. They are still a communist country that tries to control many aspects of society, but they almost have a free market on many levels.

[icantstandit]

Originally Posted by mesomorph

This is what pretty much always happens. That's why the talk of bombing Iran and thus embarrassing the leaders would lead to an uprising of the people against those leaders, is so ridiculous.

When foreign forces attack a country, it tends to unite the people against them, despite earlier differences etc. That's what happened in Finland as well when the Soviets attacked. There had been a bloody civil war between the "reds" & "whites", and still a lot of tension between those "sides". But the country united 100% against the invasion.

And what would happen if another country invaded the US? Yep. Democrats and republicans would put aside their differences, and unite against the invaders or occupiers.

I don't know why some people don't understand why regular Iraqis are fighting us. It seems pretty obvious to me- they see us as occupiers.

[kartaron]

Originally Posted by icantstandit

Communism is a political system of governance. Capitalism and socialism are two economic systems. Two different things.

Communism is not entirely antithetical to capitalism, as we see with China. They are still a communist country that tries to control many aspects of society, but they almost have a free market on many levels.

Capitalism relies on enforcement of contracts and laws that provide freedom from coersion. There is at least a minimum of governance even in laissez faire capitalism.

China has allowed some limited access to open markets. America has some markets limited by government interference. They are known respectively as Communist and Capitalist for convenience.

[icantstandit]

Originally Posted by kartaron

Capitalism relies on enforcement of contracts and laws that provide freedom from coersion. There is at least a minimum of governance even in laissez faire capitalism.

China has allowed some limited access to open markets. America has some markets limited by government interference. They are known respectively as Communist and Capitalist for convenience.

I still think you are confusing "socialism" with "communism". All economic systems need governance, it is just a matter of degree really. We have socialism here in the US as well. Social Security anyone?

[kartaron]

Originally Posted by icantstandit

I still think you are confusing "socialism" with "communism". All economic systems need governance, it is just a matter of degree really. We have socialism here in the US as well. Social Security anyone?

Socialism = government regulates

Communism = government operates

If you point is that America is socialist instead of capitalist I would agree.

[icantstandit]

Originally Posted by kartaron

Socialism = government regulates

Communism = government operates

If you point is that America is socialist instead of capitalist I would agree.

My point would be we are a mix of capitalism with socialist elements (ie schools, healthcare, social security) but ultimately we are strong due to our capitalistic nature.

Capitalism that can make a buck while caring about society is the way to go, IMO.

They are not mutually exclusive.

[No Treason]

Originally Posted by icantstandit

I saw this on Drudge this morning. Pretty funny, especially considering it is probably true.

Neil Young writes protest songs against Bush. Linda Rondstadt is heavily anti-Bush. Rolling Stone obviously doesn't have much respect for the Bush Administration. Seems like many 1960s icons are coming out the woodwork to protest Bush and the war, and I think they may have more credibility due to their involvement (and being right!) about the Vietnam War.

Discuss.
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Oh no, washed up pop stars and a teeny bopper magazine are against Bush.