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Old 11-29-2007, 02:26 AM   #231 (permalink)
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Aside from getting in their heads, what's this going to accomplish?
Who do you think won the debate?

1. Ron Paul 56% 3326 votes
2. Mike Huckabee 20% 1201 votes
3. Mitt Romney 9% 528 votes
4. John McCain 8% 502 votes
5. Rudy Giuliani 4% 236 votes
6. Fred Thompson 1% 82 votes
7. Duncan Hunter 1% 39 votes
8. Tom Tancredo 0% 11 votes


Ask Fred Thompson what he thinks about getting 82 votes and what he accomplished.

Most people prefer first place.
The media can't say that anyone else got over 3 thousand votes. They can only ignore it etc.
Since Ron Paul has the most votes, all of the others cannot claim victory here. They are losers in this poll.
How does this translate into votes? That's the 64 thousand dollar question.
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Old 11-29-2007, 02:49 AM   #232 (permalink)
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Did they even ask Ron Paul a question?

I kept flicking it back to the debate but when all the candidates kept espousing ridiculous shit I had to change the channel back
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Old 11-29-2007, 03:04 AM   #233 (permalink)

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Someone asked him if he was going to consider running as an Independent.
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Old 11-29-2007, 03:15 AM   #234 (permalink)
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Did they even ask Ron Paul a question?

I kept flicking it back to the debate but when all the candidates kept espousing ridiculous shit I had to change the channel back
Ron Paul is the man. This media is comprised of scumbags. All you have to do is vote in the right direction. You know what his position is. Fuck this puppet show for the illiterate.
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Old 11-29-2007, 03:34 AM   #235 (permalink)

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Romney man, dude seriously stumbled/tumbled on some pretty softball, elementary questions. Flip-flopper?...........guy is a straight up piece of shit. That waterboarding question......."I can't comment on anything specific on what qualifies as torture....." blah fucking blah. McCain should of just punched him out..........what is NOT to understand about tying someone down and pouring water on the face so they cannot breathe........what do you mean you can't specifically comment on that? cant even say yes or no.

Guy is a douchebag beyond reckoning.




I like how the unifier was immigration.............they talk about controlling spending and not raising taxes, cannot tell us enough about this shit........THEN PROPOSE TO BUILD HADRIAN'S WALL from California to Texas. Ironically China is footing the bill on that in some manner of covering that debt............we can call it CHINA'S GREAT WALL OF AMERICA


Felt bad for the gay general guy........guess he'd voting dem.
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Old 11-29-2007, 04:19 AM   #236 (permalink)
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Romney man, dude seriously stumbled/tumbled on some pretty softball, elementary questions. Flip-flopper?...........guy is a straight up piece of shit. That waterboarding question......."I can't comment on anything specific on what qualifies as torture....." blah fucking blah. McCain should of just punched him out..........what is NOT to understand about tying someone down and pouring water on the face so they cannot breathe........what do you mean you can't specifically comment on that? cant even say yes or no.

Guy is a douchebag beyond reckoning.




I like how the unifier was immigration.............they talk about controlling spending and not raising taxes, cannot tell us enough about this shit........THEN PROPOSE TO BUILD HADRIAN'S WALL from California to Texas. Ironically China is footing the bill on that in some manner of covering that debt............we can call it CHINA'S GREAT WALL OF AMERICA


Felt bad for the gay general guy........guess he'd voting dem.

Seriously this Mitt Romney guy is the reason I hate politicians. This guy is a straight up bad person. I watched that debate and you are right, he is a douche bag beyond all reckoning. How can anyone like this guy? He is the WORST!
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Old 11-29-2007, 05:18 AM   #237 (permalink)

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Man, After watching the debates tonight, I think I found a new hate for Republicans. It's unbelievable how much full of shit they all are.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Dems aren't but at least they don't make it so know up front.
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Old 11-29-2007, 05:40 AM   #238 (permalink)
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Paul will get no support from MSM.

We have to do this grass roots thing, and convert people one by one. I'm going to go to every door in my precinct and make sure everyone knows who Paul is and what he stands for.

I suggest any of you who watched this debate and have seen what a travesty our political system has begun, and how they can joke and put on this puppet-show while America and the world are suffering problems that are very fucking real, to join the campaign, and put your time in, because we are headed into a far bigger crisis than the cost of education in 10 years, or what racial quotas there are in US District Attorneys. The dollar is headed for a collapse, and NONE, I repeat, NONE of the current political candidates has put forth an agenda to cut enough spending and borrowing in order to curb this. None, except Ron Paul. Even you Ron Paul naysayers cannot deny the numbers.

He is the ONLY viable candidate. We have to make sure everyone knows that.
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Old 11-29-2007, 05:59 AM   #239 (permalink)

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Problem I have with McCain.

I'm gonna quote loosely here

"we need to win the war" .......it's an occupation, so let's actually address the stabilization of the the Iraqi government and do away with this misnomer concept of "winning" a conventional war. It's a crude simplification that does mischaracterizes the situation.

"in Vietnam they didn't want to follow us home, in Iraq Al-Queda will follow us home"....something to this effect, not a direct quote here BUT ther are too many people still alive now who remember the whole "domino effect" rationale as a consequence of prematurely ending Vietnam........when we withdrew troops and then later support.......the sky didn't fall as predicted, but no one denied there was consequences, Granted we drove countries in southeast Asia toward militarism/civil war and direct conflict as a result of the Vietnam war

What was predicted tho, was actually more believable,viable and entirely within the realm of possibility..........The whole "communist infiltration to sap and impurify our precious bodily fluids" jag that was the popular talking point of those days, was the same rationale to all the anti-commie fear-monger bullshit.

Fighting them over there so we don't have to here........give me a fucking break.

If we are having a seriously hard time occupying them......how the fuck are they, whoever the fuck they are and however they are gonna come over here, are gonna occupy us. If what I wrote sounds absurd then don't frame it in a way that conflates a military occupation with terrorist infiltration, which can be viewed much more accurately in the context of law enforcement.

Terrorist infiltration is gonna happen and will be address regardless of an Iraq occupation, from what I understand....I may be wrong.......AQ represents 5-10% of the insurgency and is currently fighting other groups gangland style.
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Old 11-29-2007, 06:43 AM   #240 (permalink)
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I may be wrong.......AQ represents 5-10% of the insurgency and is currently fighting other groups gangland style.
You're wrong

There are two groups in Iraq AQ and JAM.
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