RE: military overcompensation - Page 4

**Lubaolong** · 12-24-2006, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SMEAC

Since you were the best why aren't you still there?

I had several offers ranging from $85-100k+ for civilian translating jobs. Salary was a little better and no military BS. That is the only reason I left $$$ .. And that is the only reason I'm going back to school now for an engineering degree, for the hopes of making a tad more $$$ in the long run. I can always do translating in my off-time. It's the only reason I worked so hard trying to run an extra business in addition to a full-time job. $$$ .. My family spoiled me, my parents lived a good life, my sister is rolling in her and her fiance's money, and I need the same. I'm a greedy bastard. My world revolves around the mighty green dollar.

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Originally Posted by SMEAC

You can keep using all the COLA and bonus pays and make people sound like they get promoted every six months, since you are bitter you couldn't hack it somehow.

I used a military pay calculator. Even an E-5 after 4 years using the CONUS AVERAGE with no COLA or other bonus pay, it is $46,081.32. Stop bitching.
http://www.dod.mil/militarypay/pay/calc/index.html

SMEAC · 12-24-2006, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Lubaolong

I had several offers ranging from $85-100k+ for civilian translating jobs. Salary was a little better and no military BS. That is the only reason I left $$$ .. And that is the only reason I'm going back to school now for an engineering degree, for the hopes of making a tad more $$$ in the long run. The only reason I worked so hard trying to run an extra business in addition to a full-time job. $$$ .. My family spoiled me, my parents lived a good life, my sister is rolling in her and her fiance's money, and I need the same. I'm a greedy bastard. My world revolves around the mighty green dollar.

I used a military pay calculator. Even an E-5 after 4 years using the CONUS AVERAGE with no COLA or other bonus pay, it is $46,081.32. Stop bitching.
http://www.dod.mil/militarypay/pay/calc/index.html

You still got the salary wrong.

I'm not bitching, I chose to do what I do, but there is no comparison in the civilian world to what I actually do.

Your "job" in the Air Force is not representative of the military(even the rest of the Air Force), and you fucking know this.

**Lubaolong** · 12-24-2006, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Gregster

"Timmy" generally doesn't work 24/7. His company don't own his ass, can't cancel his vacation on a whim, and is not likely to abruptly order him away from home and family for months on end, including sending him to hot, dirty, smelly, unpleasant shitholes where the locals may or may not start shooting at him or detonating homemade bombs at any given moment. Among other things.

Some may, some not. And not every military member is deployable. And not every military member fights in wars. I wonder in the history of the US military, what would be the ratio of those that had to fight in a war to those that never saw combat. Regardless, military job choice is a personal decision. Everyone is free to choose a job that won't see combat if they like. And yes, a civilian has a little more personal freedom usually. Does that make up for a engineer being out earned by a high school graduate that sits at a desk shredding papers? To me, not at all. I see the military almost as a last resort job for most people. They can't cut it in college, but don't want to do manual labor. That is my opinion. You are free to disagree all you want.

**Lubaolong** · 12-24-2006, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SMEAC

Your "job" in the Air Force is not representative of the military(even the rest of the Air Force), and you fucking know this.

Did you not choose your job when you signed up? Did they not give you an opportunity for a job to sit behind a desk? I'm pretty sure they did. You made the decision not to take it.

SMEAC · 12-24-2006, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Lubaolong

Did you not choose your job when you signed up? Did they not give you an opportunity for a job to sit behind a desk? I'm pretty sure they did. You made the decision not to take it.

No shit I picked my job, I said that earlier, I wanted to be in the real military.

How you can start a thread talking about the military when you obviously have no clue what it is really like is ridiculous to me. What "military BS" did you have to put up with, did they make you wear a uniform every now and then?

You can't even figure out how to use your payment compensation calculator right.

RaposaBJJ · 12-24-2006, 01:22 AM

d brooks · 12-24-2006, 01:40 AM

ooh conservative infighting

i love it

**Orsyn** · 12-24-2006, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by SMEAC

Truth is you didn't do shit, and a Specialist acting as a team leader has more responsibility and implications to his job than you did. All the while he is getting paid jack shit.

I just spent the last 10 minutes typing out a long response, but I decided to just delete it. SMEAC speaks the truth, having been a spec 4 that was a team leader, there amount of responsibilty I had then FAR outweighs the responsibility I have now, making 3 times as much now than I did back then.

everything else has been covered. I sometimes want to defend Luba, but honestly I cannot see the need to in this thread. I am not sure why luba is so bitter.

**Lubaolong** · 12-24-2006, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by SMEAC

You can't even figure out how to use your payment compensation calculator right.

I gave the exact numbers I put in. Maybe you don't know how to use it right?

There is nothing wrong with being in the military and I'm not trying to put any of you down. I just feel you are overpaid. There are many jobs that are overpaid.

My list:

- Airline pilots. Get a FAA certification, some flight time, boom you qualify. The easiest way is probably joining the military. Delta captains take in $250k a year for sitting in a seat doing a job that is practically 100% automated.

- Air traffic controllers. Stressful job, but doesn't require a degree. Averages over $100k per year.

- Bag boys. Most baggage handlers at large airports and hotels that take luggage at the curbside make $80-100k+ a year... and almost totally in cash, which translates as tax free for most people.

- Real estate agents. While I was in Hawaii, I knew all kinds of people that would get their license and make more on the weekends than they did doing their full-time job. I know this is an up and down market and some people bust their tail to make $50k, I've seen people work part-time making over triple that.

- Wedding companies in Hawaii. They charge hundreds, sometimes thousands, for generic wedding ceremonies on the beach. Their 'professional' photographers are often very lacking and most services are not even performed by real preachers. Yet they have weddings booked 8AM to 4PM every day, earning up to $500k a year.

- Stock-fund managers/Financial advisors. These people always have made too much money for the education and work they do. My sister's fiance is making close to $400k and just moved to a larger city, kept all his old clientel, and could be making double that in a couple years.

- Prostitutes. Top earners at the Bunny Ranch make $1500 an hour for lying on their backs. Do the math.

- Dentists. Orthodontists average $380k a year for working a 9-5, signing off on the work done almost 100% by assistants, and finishing a relatively simple dentistry school + training.

- Motivational speakers. Famous or well-to-do persons travel the country reciting the same speech that someone else wrote for them over and over while taking in a huge paycheck.. some earning millions per year.

- Military. Already commented why.