RE: military overcompensation

[Rudy Richter]

Originally Posted by Lubaolong

Rudy has been the only person to make a valid argument. I really have no idea about how common certain benefits are and how much they weigh for engineers in comparison. I guess he owned me. Oh well. Some military still get paid too much..

Just setting the record straight...no pwing in this case.

Also, considering what some CEO's are making despite their companies doing horrible, I have no problem with military pay. Carly Fiorina was supposed to get a 100 mill just for the Compag/Hp merger(while laying 5000 people off). She used HP like a dirty whore to ensure here kids kids would never have to work again. I am not saying that makes it OK for some supply sergeant sitting on his ass getting a fat re-up bonus, but getting 60K for evading bullets seems far more reasonable than 10 million for driving a company bankrupt.

[piedra]

Rudy if you are not going to punch this guy in the face stop posting j/k Happy Holidays bruder.

[Lubaolong]

Originally Posted by Rudy Richter

Just setting the record straight...no pwing in this case.

Also, considering what some CEO's are making despite their companies doing horrible, I have no problem with military pay. Carly Fiorina was supposed to get a 100 mill just for the Compag/Hp merger(while laying 5000 people off). She used HP like a dirty whore to ensure here kids kids would never have to work again. I am not saying that makes it OK for some supply sergeant sitting on his ass getting a fat re-up bonus, but getting 60K for evading bullets seems far more reasonable than 10 million for driving a company bankrupt.

That, too. I forgot scandalous CEOs on my top 10 list earlier. Ok, you can replace #8 military with CEO.. now everyone can have a merry Christmas.

See you guys in a few days.

[Orsyn]

Originally Posted by Rudy Richter

I am going to refrain from bringing up what some other people said, but to besides that your numbers are way off. I don't care what website you got that from. The numbers you have sound like electrical engineering salaries right out of school with out bonuses, options, ESPP etc.

If you chose to work for a company that doesn't offer some of the compensation I mentioned, it's your own problem. Different areas also yield different compensation, which is taken into account in salary averages. Also, imo basing compensation on salary alone in high tech industry is not very wise. Let me put it this way, I got out as an E-5 in the army, now work as a EE in the bay area with 5 years experience(semi conductor field), and despite the fact that our stock is doing shitty right now I am still making more than 4 X what I did in the army. When semi conductors pick up again the difference will be in multiples of 10 magnitudes. If you are worried that engineering doesn't pay, then don't go into that field because obviously you lack passion for it and therefore would not be likely to do very well. You shouldn't be worried abut the poor military guys making more than you. It's the perks business owners get that at times are obscene.

Rudy,

What was your MOS?

[d brooks]

Originally Posted by Greg Anderson

NO PLEASE READ MY POST ON PAGE ONE BEFORE SAYING SUCH NONSENSE

oh and merry xmass d brooks

Merry Christmas to you too

[SMEAC]

Originally Posted by Lubaolong

I think you have misunderstood my post somewhere. I speak Chinese well enough, have enough experience, and an active ts security clearance to ensure a 6 figure income no matter what. I still get email job offers from resumes I have posted on intelligencecareers.com and careerbuilder.com.

You don't have an active top secret clearance.

[massgrunt]

Originally Posted by SMEAC

You don't have an active top secret clearance.

That's it, chip away at his psyche... nice catch.

[Lubaolong]

Originally Posted by SMEAC

You don't have an active top secret clearance.

My clearance and poly were renewed the beginning of this year. TS clearances last for 2 years of inactive use and can be re-activated anytime within this period. I still list on my resume "active TS/SCI clearance w/ poly last used xx/xx". My clearance is going to last long enough for me to get into an internship that requires one to get it refreshed again before I graduate.

[Gandhi]

Originally Posted by Lubaolong

I think you have misunderstood my post somewhere. I speak Chinese well enough, have enough experience, and an active ts security clearance to ensure a 6 figure income no matter what. I still get email job offers from resumes I have posted on intelligencecareers.com and careerbuilder.com. These are my fallbacks. I will always have this. But I hate translating. And I hate only make $100k a year doing a job I hate. And I don't like busting my ass trying to run an additional business to make more. That's why I'm going back to school. I've talked to an engineering graduate of the school I'm attending that is a manager working outside the US and my sister fiance's friend in a similar situation in the Philippines. They are both making serious bucks. I'm working hard with hopes of my wife and I being able to do the same in addition to a side business. I will always be able to earn $100k+ and so will she no matter what. We are only trying to improve our position and find a more enjoyable profession. I have hopes our household income will top $500k one day. If it doesn't and we're destine to be stuck at $250k or wherever it ends up, I can't say we didn't try.

And I don't think electrical engineering is an overpopulated field. Every job outlook projection I've seen looks good. I think with my diverse background, security clearance, management experience, and useful language proficiency I will be an attractive package. I could be wrong I guess, but we'll see. I have high hopes for us.

Merry Xmas to you, too. Have a good holiday and be safe.

I may have misunderstood, many cars to see through.

Let me just try to convey that it is easy percieve all this as sour grapes. A toned down discussion of market equilibriums would have made your FINAL point that some members of the military may be overpaid. But being a right wing libertarian, ex LOG WOG, who calls combat troops overpaid meat shields while pining about your own short comings, has to rival Brat's pedo tendancy for self ostracism on sherdog. I just think there is a bit of communication issue on your side here.

Any how Merry X mas and good luck to and family with in the next year.

[Gandhi]

Originally Posted by J-Fight

I think cops make too much - all that bullshit detail work... infuriating...

Luba has sufficietly gotten PWND in this thread.

J long time no see

Merry Xmas