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Old 03-07-2008, 01:57 PM   #1 (permalink)

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Race controversy as actor Robert Downey Jr 'blacks up' for new film

I have to give props to the creators of this movie, bringing it right to the p.c police, if Chapelle can do it, why can't Stiller.

Mel Brooks said a movie like Blazing Saddles would never be produced in todays age and I'm not saying this movie will be as good, but it's good to see people still pushing the boundries.

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Actor Robert Downey Jr has in the past been applauded for his edgy roles.

But his latest may be a step too far - as the actor dons make-up to play a rather convincing looking black man in a new Hollywood film starring comic actor Ben Stiller.

In a still from film Tropic Thunder, Downey Jnr is sandwiched between Ben Stiller, and a blonde Jack Black.



With his afro hair and brown skin, he is virtually unrecognisable as the 42-year-old star of stage and screen.

Downey Jr plays a worthy Oscar-winning actor taking on a role originally written for a black actor, and rather than re-write the part, he goes method.

Clearing anticipating a backlash, Downey Jr told a US magazine: "If it's done right, it could be the type of role you called Peter Sellers to do 35 years ago. If you don't do it right, we're going to hell."

But the backlash has clearly begun as one comment on a showbiz blog Just Jared said: "I'm not black and I find it offensive; are there not any talented enough black actors out in the world that they feel the need to hire a white guy to do a black guy?"

"They are infering that there are no good enough black actors to play a black person.

"What is the significance of hiring a white guy to play a black part? what are they trying to prove? I bet its to get more publicity."

But in support of Downey's satirical role another comment on the blog said: "I'm black too, and if they were satirising black people yes it would be offensive. but they're not.

"It's FUNNY because they're NOT legitimising negative racial stereotypes, anyone with a brain in his/her head can see how painfully clear that is."


The film centres on a group of pompous actors making the most expensive Vietnam war movie ever made.

Fed up with their self-involved cast, the film's makers drop them into the jungle to take care of themselves, where they get caught up in a conflict they don't realise is real.

The cast also includes Steve Coogan, Nick Nolte and cameos from Tom Cruise and Tobey Maguire.

Stiller said he was "trying to push it as far as you can within reality," with the intent of satirising over-the-top actors, not African-Americans.

"I had no idea how people would respond to it," Stiller told the magazine. But at a recent screening, black viewers liked the film", he said.

The film, Stiller's first as director since Zoolander, also sees his character adopt an Asian baby but worries "that all the good ones have gone".
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Controversy my ass. It looks hilarious.

Everybody remembers the scene in Zoolander where Stiller used his pocket make-up kit to disguise himself as a janitor? It was a simple but effective sight gag with zero racial over tones.
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As a black male, I think that's outstanding.

I guess I sorta agree that they could've just found a black guy to play the part but isn't it the same thing as having Will Smith work out and get ripped to play an action hero? Couldn't they just get a buff guy? Or having John Travolta play a fat woman?

As long as he does a good job and isn't blatantly offensive, I don't see the problem. If he manages to pull it off, give him a fucking Oscar. Its not easy to play a role like that.

And the make-up on him is great. At first glance, I was fooled. Even on second glance I was a bit surprised...
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So Downey's character in the movie is a white actor who is playing a black character? How is that any different than the Wayans Bros. "White Chicks"? This is an absolute non-issue.

Casting a black actor for the role would have made absolutely no sense. The role was for a white actor to play a white actor who's playing a black character sorta deal. I guess you could have cast a black actor and had him playing a white guy who is playing a black guy, but that would take a helluva lot of acting chops to pull off and has been mentioned Denzel is not signing on for this movie.
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HAHAHAH that is funny and I am black.



"I had no idea how people would respond to it," Stiller told the magazine. But at a recent screening, black viewers liked the film", he said.


So what the fuck is the problem? I agree with this guy.

But in support of Downey's satirical role another comment on the blog said: "I'm black too, and if they were satirising black people yes it would be offensive. but they're not.

"It's FUNNY because they're NOT legitimising negative racial stereotypes, anyone with a brain in his/her head can see how painfully clear that is."



So why the hell is anybody else giving a shit?
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So Downey's character in the movie is a white actor who is playing a black character? How is that any different than the Wayans Bros. "White Chicks"? This is an absolute non-issue.
Blackface has a long history as being racist. A white person wearing makeup to appear black can be seen as offensive still.
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So why the hell is anybody else giving a shit?
Give it a few days, the media will probably be all over it.
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that's pretty funny; what's the controversy in *Acting*?
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sounds like a non-issue, it's not like he's running around in blackface making fun of black people.
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Blackface has a long history as being racist. A white person wearing makeup to appear black can be seen as offensive still.

I understand that, but he's not playing a black man as a fool, he's playing a white man who's playing a black man and is playing actors in general as fools.
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