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Old 07-13-2008, 08:00 PM   #61 (permalink)

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Obama will loose because cetain Senators will take bribes...easy as than. That and a little help from some Voting machines (it can be done), or maybe someone might just find a little hanging chad...
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Old 07-13-2008, 08:17 PM   #62 (permalink)

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It won’t be his pastor, “that pin,” his fist bumping wife, his middle name, his inexperience, his shifting positions, Rezko, his race, his lack of ideas, his allies wishing they could castrate him or any of the other gems that make up Team Obama, that will bring him down.

His undoing will be the debates. Obama is nothing without his greatest weapon – the teleprompter.

He wasn’t exposed during the Democratic “debates” because he basically agreed with everyone’s position. The “debates” with Hillary were laughable. They basically came to the conclusion that they agreed on virtually everything and they hated George Bush.

The old man has been challenging the savior to debate him. Initially, Obama’s response was “anytime, anywhere.” McCain has called him out on it numerous times and Obama, shockingly, always has a pesky schedule conflict. I’m sure all of those schedule conflicts were more important than debating his adversary. It’s not like he’s running for president or anything.

Here’s the most recent example of his ridiculous debate dodging. He can keep running but he’ll have to take his beating sooner or later. His lead over McCain slipped from 15 points to 3 in yesterday’s Newsweek poll. The wheels will completely come off after he gets lambasted in a nationally televised debate.

Obama Won’t Commit to Event at Military Base - NYTimes.com

Obama Won’t Commit to Event at Military Base

By KATE ZERNIKE
Published: July 12, 2008

A coalition of military groups is planning a nationally televised town-hall-style meeting with the presidential candidates near Fort Hood, Tex., the largest active-duty military installation in the country. But so far, only Senator John McCain of Arizona, the presumptive Republican nominee, has agreed to attend.

CBS has agreed to broadcast the meeting live from 9 to 11 p.m. Eastern time on Monday, Aug. 11. The candidates would face questions directly from an audience of 6,000 people, made up of veterans, service members and military families from the base.
Senator Barack Obama of Illinois, the presumptive Democratic nominee, has not agreed to participate.
“Senator Obama strongly supports America’s veterans and military families and has worked hard on their behalf in the Senate,” said Phillip Carter, director of Mr. Obama’s veterans effort and an Iraq war veteran. “While we unfortunately had a previously scheduled commitment on the date proposed, Senator Obama looks forward to continuing the dialogue he’s been having throughout the country with veterans on how we can better serve our men and women in uniform as they serve us.”
Carissa Picard, managing director of the Fort Hood Presidential Town Hall Consortium, said she had suggested Aug. 11 and asked the campaign to suggest other dates if that was not convenient, but after several conversations she had not been able to work anything out.
“I’m having extreme difficulty getting the Obama campaign to commit to this event, and we do not understand why,” said Ms. Picard, whose husband is deployed in Iraq. “We made it very clear to them that if they would commit to the event, we would work with them on dates.”
The organizers released details about the event in hopes that it would pressure the Obama campaign to agree to the event.
“This was a decision that was made with tremendous difficulty, to publicize it,” Ms. Picard said. “We were at a point where we had no other option. We got the impression that they could talk us to November.”
The meeting would be at the Expo Center in Belton, Tex., about 25 miles from Fort Hood.
A military audience might seem more hospitable to a Republican candidate, particularly one like Mr. McCain, who has made his support for the war in Iraq the heart of his campaign. But the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have taken a heavy toll on Fort Hood; one of the groups organizing the event estimates that up to 800 of the service people who have died in Iraq have come through the base.
And organizers say many Fort Hood residents — the base serves about 218,000 people, including service members, retirees and military families — have grown tired of the war and agree with Mr. Obama’s declaration that it must end.
Still, Mr. McCain prefers the town-hall-style format. He had proposed a series of 10 similar events with Mr. Obama, and the two campaigns were said to be working out details for a more limited series of meetings.
Organizers say the veterans and military population in the United States, including families, totals about 44 million people.
“McCain and Obama are asking to be the next commander in chief,” Ms. Picard said. “What’s a more compelling audience than this, the people that you have asked to maintain our security? It would be tremendous for the morale of this community.”
Organizers include American Veterans, Disabled American Veterans, Military Order of the Purple Heart, Veterans for Common Sense and Military Spouse Corporate Career Network.
Agreed, all this "angst" that people have over the "Republicans" is nothing different from 2004.

Only this time, you have mostly a Democrat Controlled Congress to also blame for the bullshit. Which, in many people's opinions are the cause of most of the "new" problems.

I mean come on. 8 years of Bush? But the REALLY TOUGH times occured during the last 2? WHen Democrats took control of Congress?

Yeah, I'm convinced we need a "CHANGE" to the Dems
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Old 07-13-2008, 08:32 PM   #63 (permalink)

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Agreed, all this "angst" that people have over the "Republicans" is nothing different from 2004.

Only this time, you have mostly a Democrat Controlled Congress to also blame for the bullshit. Which, in many people's opinions are the cause of most of the "new" problems.

I mean come on. 8 years of Bush? But the REALLY TOUGH times occured during the last 2? WHen Democrats took control of Congress?

Yeah, I'm convinced we need a "CHANGE" to the Dems
Thats technically right but realistically disingenuous. They have a wafer thing majority and Lieberman is a Repub in Dem clothing. The Dems have been spineless but you can't ignore Repub opposition and Pres veto threat. Really tough times as you called it are also under a Repub presidency. Also you think the 6 years preceding the 2006 elections have no bearing on how the last 2 years have been?
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Old 07-13-2008, 11:23 PM   #64 (permalink)

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Eh, thread fails. John McCain is a senile old bastard who probably wont remember what to say during the debates. Its not like people pay attention to what he has to say either, they just stare at the bulges on his neck. Obama via split decision.
Yeah...I'm not sure why the TS would think a debate between these TWO particular Presidential nominees would result in Obama coming out looking worse for wear...

Be realistic.
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Old 07-27-2008, 02:27 PM   #65 (permalink)

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Old 07-27-2008, 04:07 PM   #66 (permalink)

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The only way for you guys to deal with his victory is to post a bunch on the internets - it will help with the healing process.

He is going to crush McCain - it won't even be close. Sucks to be you.
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Old 07-27-2008, 04:11 PM   #67 (permalink)

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The worst part of Obama's presidency will be 4 years of grinning retards spreading their arms open and talking about hope and change, and I don't know if I can take that. When Obama's worshipers stare at the sky grinning lecturing about hope, it reminds me of those fat women on the Christian channel who go into sweaty seizures from the sheer holy energy in the room and look like gods doing a bukkake on them.
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Old 07-27-2008, 04:52 PM   #68 (permalink)

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When on earth are the debates?
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Old 08-06-2008, 10:32 PM   #69 (permalink)

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OP = FAIL. Everything you mentioned were either half truths, empty statements with no proof provided, and no real point or respectable point of view. Give us some sources at least...

Barack Obama makes John McCain's campaign look incredibly stupid again

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Republican Sen. Sam Brownback of Kansas learned a lesson today that other John McCain surrogates might be wise to learn: Before you say Barack Obama never worked across the aisle, make sure he never worked with, for example, you.

On a McCain campaign conference call with reporters this morning, Brownback — who was briefly one of McCain’s rivals for the Republican nomination — said Obama was all talk and no action when it came to working across the aisle.

“John McCain’s a maverick. He’s fought for a bipartisan fashion,” Brownback said. “I think that the biggest thing I’ve seen from Barack Obama is a willingness, aggressiveness, to talk bipartisan and yet to vote the hard left — most liberal member of the United States Senate.”

So Obama’s rapid-response team quickly fired off an e-mail listing the projects on which he worked with Brownback. They include a Brownback bill that authorized sanctions against people who were involved with the genocide in Darfur, a version of which became law in 2006. They also teamed up on an Obama bill that required the administration to provide humanitarian relief and other aid to the Democratic Republic of the Congo.

Brownback also co-sponsored Obama’s bill to impose sanctions against Iran. And the two were involved — though not the principal players — in the 2006 immigration overhaul effort that McCain worked on with Democratic Sen. Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts.

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I like how quickly Obama responds to stuff. It's about time the Dems got their shit together. Then again, didn't you say he doesn't? LOL
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Old 08-06-2008, 10:36 PM   #70 (permalink)

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Iraq is "not that important".

YouTube - MCCAIN GETS OWNED AGAIN

McCain thinks Putin is the president of Germany


YouTube - McCain thinks Putin is the President of Germany

And Obama's response(s) to McCain's criticism

YouTube - Obama SLAMS BUSH & MCCAIN For OUTRAGEOUS APPEASER REMARKS

YouTube - Barack Obama Responds to John McCain

YouTube - OBAMA makes McCain look stupid

YouTube - Must See before you vote in November

Debate between Obama & McCain (kind of biased but humorous)


YouTube - Debate between Obama & McCain

God I can't wait til the debates. Obama is going to embarrass him so bad, enough reason to watch them alone. If McCain wins this election, I'm losing all hope for my fellow Americans. That or, it was rigged.
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