Popular Mechanics 9/11 Author Grilled On Talk Radio

[Zankou]

Originally Posted by Thaiboxer18

Yeah ok the dna stuff has been sufficiently explained, but I still don't understand what the rationale is for not releasing the other videos of the pentagon crash.

I agree too. Not that I expect it to solve anything whatsoever --- you have to be a novice in the field of CT to expect evidence to make any difference. But it's very annoying that they are not making it all available to the public.

In one sense I can see why --- gov't investigations basically never just release all their evidence to the public, as a matter of basic procedure from the most minor criminal case on upward. But still, there is no reason for them to withhold this stuff.

[HomeCheese]

Gregster et all; you must admit that it is a bit strange that they have pictures of the huge whole in the side of Building 7 but won’t release them to the public. Why on earth would you hold that back? I was not aware such pictures existed until I read that today.

[computer fogie]

Originally Posted by Polynikes

"What about the 7 to 9 hijackers that were reported in the British press who came forward and said, “We’re alive, what are we doing on the FBI list of so-called hijackers? We’re alive and well.” How do you explain that one?"

I love that part...

You guys will believe any and everything that you hear...

PM responds with:

"It was one BBC report – I am saying that is false"


So the caller goes:

"How did you verify that the British story was false?"

Hahahaha...

Let me see if I understand your point here.

The questioner asked about the information in a BBC report. The answer was "I am saying that it is false". The questioner asks for verification of this opinion. What's wrong with asking him to back up his claim that the BBC story was wrong? Why do you think that's funny, all he did was ask for something more than a categorical denial of a mainstream news story.

Jesus, you guys sure are selective with your debating rules. If the situation was reversed your opinion would be reversed too.

[Gregster]

Originally Posted by HomeCheese

Gregster et all; you must admit that it is a bit strange that they have pictures of the huge whole in the side of Building 7 but won’t release them to the public. Why on earth would you hold that back? I was not aware such pictures existed until I read that today.

Actually, HC, the pic in question (unless there's another I'm unaware of) has been posted by myself and others repeatedly, as it is contained in a PowerPoint slideshow from NIS summarizing the current working hypothesis of how the building fell.

[icantstandit]

Originally Posted by Mens Rea

Here's the thing about the pentagon. There was an explosion on impact. Flames outside. When a cruise missile hits a building it penetrates and then explodes. The debris are blown outward from the hole created at impact. It wasn't a missile that hit the pentagon.

Well, I think all but the looniest of them still think missles were used. There were far too many people that saw a 757 hit the Pentagon, so best case scenario is that there was a "drone" or that the plane was on remote control. I guess the evil remote-control drone operators were busy that day. Man, there are a lot of evil people that work for the govt.

[InSummary]

Originally Posted by computer fogie

I'm hiding in fear and shame from you wise men who reveal the painful truth to us anti-american terrorist apologists. I cannot bear to be beaten up any further by your logic and factual information and clear unbiased thinking.

if only you had that much sense.

[computer fogie]

The government is keeping secret the pics of the massive damage to WTC7, and they're keeping secret the videos of the 757 hitting the Pentagon.

They have a growing problem on their hands; 36% of Americans believe the US government was complicit in 9/11. They could squash this by releasing these things, but they choose not to.

Does this make sense? Hell no it doesn't. If someone accuses you of doing something wrong, and you have hard evidence that supports your story, you don't keep it a secret and expect people to trust you. It wouldn't work in court, it doesn't work in life, and it doesn't work in a matter of huge significance to the whole world. They would have let us see these things, if they didn't fear the consequences.

[Mens Rea**]

So has the official CT's focus shifted from the towers to WTC 7?

Is that the big issue now?

[ShaolinSubz]

Originally Posted by Gregster

Beat me to it.

I recall that some DNA was recovered from steering wheels in cars rented or otherwise used by the terrorists and, I think, their hotel rooms (still looking for the article that mentions this).

EDIT -I Agree, I thought of this straight away also. Is he not asking how the DNA was matched to the individuals? I am guessing they would have had to have had DNA tested or recovered prior to thier entering the US for a match to take place? I think this is the question

This is hardly a direction I would take my questioning, I am more interested in the reasons why the alleged evidence is deemed too valuble for the public concerning tapes and pictures from all aspects of the disaster. I have also stated where my questions are concerning 9/11, but all the posters on here skirt around them

[TheMMAn]

Originally Posted by computer fogie

Let me see if I understand your point here.

The questioner asked about the information in a BBC report. The answer was "I am saying that it is false". The questioner asks for verification of this opinion. What's wrong with asking him to back up his claim that the BBC story was wrong? Why do you think that's funny, all he did was ask for something more than a categorical denial of a mainstream news story.

Jesus, you guys sure are selective with your debating rules. If the situation was reversed your opinion would be reversed too.

allow me to moderate.

i think the PM guy was implying was that he deemed the statement false based on comparison with all emperical evidence he and others had spent time investigating. He prolly should have elaborated in his response, but is prolly running short on patience with the C/T'rs these days.

i believe Poly's point is that it's stupid to respond to a request to prove a negative.

I could have called that guy, stated that i knew for a fact that the planes were not piloted by AQ guys, but an Australian street gang. When he said that was fasle, i would ask him how he he could prove that.