Popular Mechanics 9/11 Author Grilled On Talk Radio

[Captain Blamo]

Originally Posted by Gregster

You know, Stephen Hawking himself could not begin to fathom the magnitude of your stupidity.

Don't think that's the answer either but thanks for coming out.

[kartaron]

Originally Posted by Gregster

You know, Stephen Hawking himself could not begin to fathom the magnitude of your stupidity.

Thats because unlike the universe, his stupidity knows no bounds and doesnt follow any logical systems.

[InSummary]

Originally Posted by Zankou

you can safely discount that as standard CT willingness to insist on the "impossibility" of things in fields they know nothing about.

that about sums it up.



with regard to the DNA, Gregster came through with that on page one.


now, i just wonder where computer fogie went?

[Gregster]

Originally Posted by Captain Blamo

Don't think that's the answer either but thanks for coming out.

Actually, I answered your question the first time. Anyone with functioning grey matter could make the connection between the FEDERAL Bureau of Investigation collecting evidence and the conclusions reached using this info by other FEDERAL investigators without having a picture drawn for them. And you, of course, know this but instead are making a comically feeble attempt to make it look like I'm bringing up irrelevant info or dodging some tough question because you just got spanked.

[Thaiboxer18]

Yeah ok the dna stuff has been sufficiently explained, but I still don't understand what the rationale is for not releasing the other videos of the pentagon crash.

[computer fogie]

Originally Posted by kartaron

Hair, skin and other materials would have been present in their car, hotel, house, etc.

Thanks, I hadn't thought of that, as obvious as it sounds now. I asked a question, you answered. That's how it's supposed to go.

Originally Posted by Gregster

...Maybe you should have asked computerfogie what can happen when you mock people who actually have a clue regarding things like DNA identification of 9/11 terrorists and their victims.

Once again, since you bring this up about once a month: I said that DNA is destroyed at 150 degrees C (per a source I found). You said that DNA can be extracted from even badly burnt bodies (per a source you found). I deferred to you on that, agreeing that if the DNA itself doesn't reach 150C, it can be extracted, and then asked how a fire could burn so incredibly hot that it could consume (not just melt) TONS of aluminum and steel and titanium, but leave DNA intact. You said there was nothing special about the Pentagon fires temperature. We then go around and around on that point. You say the fire wasn't unusually hot, and I say it was.

You say a 6 1/2 ton engine can penetrate a wall without leaving a hole, I say that's impossible. You say I can't know anything because I'm not a PhD in structural engineering, I say it only takes a child to see that. You say one wing was sheared off before hitting the outer wall, I say "then where did it go"? You say the other wing hit the ground first, breaking it up into little pieces, I say "where is the lawn damage"? You then realize that all close images of the lawn indeed do show it undamaged (oops!), so you post a pic taken FROM A SATELLITE, and have the balls to say it proves the lawn wass damaged (you couldn't even see where the lawn was in that pic, it was so tiny).

[computer fogie]

Originally Posted by InSummary

...now, i just wonder where computer fogie went?

I'm hiding in fear and shame from you wise men who reveal the painful truth to us anti-american terrorist apologists. I cannot bear to be beaten up any further by your logic and factual information and clear unbiased thinking.

[icantstandit]

Originally Posted by Thaiboxer18

Yeah ok the dna stuff has been sufficiently explained, but I still don't understand what the rationale is for not releasing the other videos of the pentagon crash.

I agree with that statement. Since the investigation is virtually over, you would think they would feel comfortable releasing those videos.

It would certainly shut up the CTers. (Wait... what am I saying... you could have HDTV videos of a close-up of the faces of the terrorists in a 757 as they slammed into the Pentagon, but the CTers would say it was a fake, and they would still be "just asking questions"...)

Maybe they still need them for any upcoming court cases? Meh.. I don't know why...

[Pennywise03]

Originally Posted by Thaiboxer18

Yeah ok the dna stuff has been sufficiently explained, but I still don't understand what the rationale is for not releasing the other videos of the pentagon crash.

Maybe its because they don't want to document what kind of damage can be done to such an important structure. Having a clear video of the incident would show someone exactly what kind of damage can be done to the building and could help engineer future attacks. Plus this was an awful event, why would they put the families of those who died through that pain again just to please someones morbid curiousity?

[Mens Rea**]

Here's the thing about the pentagon. There was an explosion on impact. Flames outside. When a cruise missile hits a building it penetrates and then explodes. The debris are blown outward from the hole created at impact. It wasn't a missile that hit the pentagon.