[Saith]

Originally Posted by VikingRage

People use electricity, no one is stopping you from moving to the Frozen Tundra because you are so against it. When we all go back to candles and camp fires maybe you can then make a post how we should use electricity instead because it will help prevent forest fires and burning towns down. Or maybe when that happens I bet you would cry that since its hot outside it must be due to the smoke caused from the fires from candles and camp fires that is creating global warming. After that we can stop using fire, then when it gets a little hotter we can blame it on someone else.

No joke. Moving away from technology and the use of electricity will INCREASE the rate of carbon dioxide in the air.

Cars might do it but horses are far worse.

[VikingRage]

Originally Posted by Chaos Mitten

I don't leave my lights on at night.

Nice, well I kind of have some Christmas lights I leave on all year around because I am to lazy to take them down.

[Zankou]

Coincidentally, the lit areas are also the best places to live, with the best educated people, the best science, and the best health. But I guess the solution is to live in disease, poverty, and ignorance, since that's healthier for us all.

I gotta love the threadstarter's pathetic attempt to distinguish the USA from Canada ... evidently Canadians don't use lights, it's just the evil USA, Europeans, and Japanese. I've never noticed that Vancouver is a dark zone. Obviously was not paying attention.

[busdriver01]

I leave my truck running all night just for the hell of it.

[fedordoublefist]

Release the shiva virus allready. I'll take the A vaccine. Give the 'B' to the rest of SD.

[fedordoublefist]

10 pts to the person who knows what book that is from ^^^

[PECK CHOKE]

Originally Posted by enginekid

The USA being the major culprit.


Sadly, areas like India are starting to become lit up like Europe and the USA. Not even close yet to the brightness and intensity of the USA but one day if they stay on this path it will be.

Nothing you own will save you; not your houses, your SUV's, your bank accounts, your guns, your medications...nothing. Once this ship tips, the party is OVER.

You are either a part of the disease or a part of the solution. nothing but a world sucked dry by your slothful ways, greedy soul, and mental apathy.

Pretty lame post I must say, does the thread starter not own a car, use electricity, consume any products, have clothes, eat, or breathe. If the he does then he is part of the cancer and should be removed from existence so mother earth can live. By the way Europe is just as bright as the US of A so suck it!

[TheSweetScience]

Originally Posted by fedordoublefist

10 pts to the person who knows what book that is from ^^^

The Hot Zone?

[Kippy Winstead]

Originally Posted by enginekid

This is the Earth at nighttime. Notice that North America, mainly the USA is using massive power 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. Next is Western Europe, than Japan. There are major cities around the globe that also have this intensity of light all night.



The all-night-long power grid represents a direct relationship with industrial activity, automotive activity, and any other activities that use electric power. All these activities are not pretty Christmas lights for the kids ... or cool light shows for the stoners... they represent "cancer" to the planet Earth. And present the highest levels of heat trapping gases: The USA being the major culprit.

The best analogy is, the area with the high levels of light indicates spreading cancer - which is harbinger of the impending doom of the ecosystem, all its species, (e.g. the worlds frogs are all dying off, they are the indicator species of eco-health). Ultimately the major species that's causing it, the apex predator, will die in the end ... humans.

Sadly, areas like India are starting to become lit up like Europe and the USA. Not even close yet to the brightness and intensity of the USA but one day if they stay on this path it will be.

Post-industrial Human activity is the root of the disease. White humans are the ones most responsible for engineering, and through democratic marketing, spreading the contagion.

The main skin color of the humans that are causing the most of it on Earth is, white. If you look around at the rest of the planet that is mostly in the dark at night you can see it's in areas like Africa, South America, and Eurasia. Populated by dark skin colour peoples. The peoples you Americans and Europeans all call backward, third world, impoverished losers. When in actuality it is you, the all-night-long power-sucking vampires of the planet who are impoverishing the Earth. The party won't last my friends. You think your technology will save us? The Earth laughs in our faces. We are at a tipping point in human history. All the people who think of themselves as the “have-mores” and laugh at the poor, “have-nots” are the true cancers of this world. The planet and nature has no ability though to discriminate between you and the rest of the people. Nothing you own will save you; not your houses, your SUV's, your bank accounts, your guns, your medications...nothing. Once this ship tips, the party is OVER.

You are either a part of the disease or a part of the solution. You either deny the truth or accept this disease exists and start doing something about it. All the vampires will keep denying it, because well, they are vampires. Are you one of the vampires? Do you kid yourself and think no way man I am a law-abiding family man, and I’m not buying into this BS, I isn’t no vampire!?

Keep kidding yourself then. Your kids will have nothing but a world sucked dry by your slothful ways, greedy soul, and mental apathy.

you can tell all the poor and crappy countries because they don't have any lights and stuff... its prolly all dark over there you know... no street lights... no side walks... lol... they are poor...

[PECK CHOKE]

Originally Posted by enginekid

This isnt a white versus the world debate. i merely point out that the have-more's (mainly white people) sit around and consider themselves to be so benevolent and educated, and think themselves defenders of liberty blah blah blah, and also their corporations try and make shit up about how they can just create more technology to solve the issues, but the fact is its mostly rich countries dominated by WASP's that are reaping the short term benefits of 24hour industrial power, while their gluttony sows the seeds of the rest of the worlds destruction.

and i am a white person too. but im not so stupid and blind to not realise that we are causing all this. making bad examples to the rest of the world who think they can achieve this "american dream" when in reality the dream is nothing more than the shadow of a nightmare.

I sold my car. i walk, ride bike.

i purchase stuff thats made locally so it doesnt need to be shipped thousand of miles to me.

i use as little power as possible turning off all lights when not needed. and i recycle as much as i can. i dont own many possessions either. i dont just buy shit for the sake of owning it. like all the morons who buy every movie they wanna watch, and now have hundreds of DVD movied stacked on their shelves ... pathetic wastefulness.

i cant control the fact that cities and municipalities are too stupid to realise the pollution and waste and keep lights on all night long. but this year the planet had a 1 hour lights out test a couple months ago as a token gesture to rraise awaeness of our collective stupidity about having the planet lit up at night, when we are faced with the ramifications of what our wasteful lives have done to our environment and caused global warming.

what do you guys do?

I think it's pretty obvious that you can't afford a car, DVD's or any of these other things that you so seem to dislike so much. If you only buy things that are made locally, you probably don't have any shoes, vegetables, shampoo, soap. But I am sure that hemp necklace you bought local is saving the planet. Maybe your locally produced glass bong.