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Old 05-11-2008, 12:46 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Old 05-11-2008, 12:53 AM   #12 (permalink)
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i read only like the first 50 pages several months ago (read part while at my parents' house). not sure what to think of it really.

he wrote shit like "but historically israel has been destroyed when they veer from God" lol.

meh it's just really hard to make out a guy like carter who was a shit prez, a total anti-american turd and a weirdo protestant (ostensible) fundamentalist and is supposedly extremely intelligent. the matrix is all that comes to mind.
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Old 05-11-2008, 09:13 AM   #13 (permalink)

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i read only like the first 50 pages several months ago (read part while at my parents' house). not sure what to think of it really.

he wrote shit like "but historically israel has been destroyed when they veer from God" lol.

meh it's just really hard to make out a guy like carter who was a shit prez, a total anti-american turd and a weirdo protestant (ostensible) fundamentalist and is supposedly extremely intelligent. the matrix is all that comes to mind.
mmmmmmm.. before u, i only heard good things bout the book..

ill let u kno wat i think of it once i read it
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Old 05-11-2008, 04:17 PM   #14 (permalink)

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at times, habbibi

My Egyptian friends, after getting me into Tahrneeb (sp) felt the need to intersperse gchat and facebook wall posts with 3rabish, lol.
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Old 05-11-2008, 04:23 PM   #15 (permalink)

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Ya, its pretty sad that egyptians occupied pali's land and are committing all the attrocities mentioned by former Prez. Carter.

o wait, Egypts not even mentioned in the article...

What about Israels treatment of Palestine, or anything mentioned by Jimmy Carter in the article??

(also, FYI, EGYPT mediated the recent truce plea by Hamas that ISRAEL rejected. Israel rejects Hamas offer for truce - Israel-Palestinians - MSNBC.com start ur thread about arabs betrayal of pali's and i promise il contribute. dont try to divert the attention from israel.)
It is in Egypt's interest to have peace between Israel and the Palis; they aren't doing it out of the goodness of their hearts. They don't want Hamas on their border, which is in line with Mubarak's attempts to ban the Muslim Brotherhood.

Hamas' truce offer did not include anything about Hamas accepting Israel's right to exist; why would Israel accept those terms? If Hamas were serious, they would offer Israel full normalization of relations, permanent truce, full acceptance of Israel's right to exist, etc if Israel pulled out of the WB.

Also the Arab world's offer of full normalization of rights with Israel includes a clause giving the Pali refugees the right to return, which would basically make Israel an Arab state and destroy its character as the Jewish state. That is never going to be accepted by Israel.
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Old 05-11-2008, 04:38 PM   #16 (permalink)

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It is in Egypt's interest to have peace between Israel and the Palis; they aren't doing it out of the goodness of their hearts. They don't want Hamas on their border, which is in line with Mubarak's attempts to ban the Muslim Brotherhood.

Hamas' truce offer did not include anything about Hamas accepting Israel's right to exist; why would Israel accept those terms? If Hamas were serious, they would offer Israel full normalization of relations, permanent truce, full acceptance of Israel's right to exist, etc if Israel pulled out of the WB.

Also the Arab world's offer of full normalization of rights with Israel includes a clause giving the Pali refugees the right to return, which would basically make Israel an Arab state and destroy its character as the Jewish state. That is never going to be accepted by Israel.
firstly, like i mentioned before: this thread has nothin to do wit EGYPT. and u keep bringin up egypt for no apparent reason.

secondly, you said:
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While I certainly applaud Egypt's refusal to deal with Hamas, I condemn their treatment of the Palestinian civilians.
and i proved u wrong:
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(also, FYI, EGYPT mediated the recent truce plea by Hamas that ISRAEL rejected. Israel rejects Hamas offer for truce - Israel-Palestinians - MSNBC.com start ur thread about arabs betrayal of pali's and i promise il contribute. dont try to divert the attention from israel.)
now plz stick to the topic at hand and dont try to hijack the thread.
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Old 05-11-2008, 05:08 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Old 05-11-2008, 05:32 PM   #18 (permalink)

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nice rebuttal !!!! rusky once again you have defended the honor of your zionist state with such strength and conviction, how can anybody ever stick up for those palestinians ? you should of remained a stain on a matress
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i read only like the first 50 pages several months ago (read part while at my parents' house). not sure what to think of it really.

he wrote shit like "but historically israel has been destroyed when they veer from God" lol.

meh it's just really hard to make out a guy like carter who was a shit prez, a total anti-american turd and a weirdo protestant (ostensible) fundamentalist and is supposedly extremely intelligent. the matrix is all that comes to mind.
Haha ...
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Is Carter even Relevant anymore?
jimy carters not relevant who was a bad prez
mahatma gandhi was a racist
malcolm x was a black seperatist at one point in his life
arun gandhis also racist and just wants attantion
nelson mandella was a PoW so his views are biased

none of their opinion bout israel matters because of the above reasons, and we shud ignore everything they say even if its fact!

also the jews who speak out are self haters who suffer from ifneriority complex
and the traditional jews such as NT and TTJ are fundamentalists
those who arent jews and speak out are anti semitic
the ones that who speak out too loud are nazis.

jewish organizations calling for peace that condemn the militant zionist state are a minority and treehuggers
pali organizations that do that are terrorists, so news and info from them cant be trusted

this isnt directed at u remowiliams (ur a cool guy), but just a general outlook on various “defense mechanisms” iv seen being employd on sherdog (which r forms of ad hominem)
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