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Old 04-17-2008, 08:49 AM   #11 (permalink)

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which other country its not like weapons are a finite commodity here, obviously there arent too many o****ries in line and profits by the manufacturers need to be made + the jobs

you are playing "teh dumb" very well
Arab countries would love to be able to buy them. At any rate giving away these goods for free = net loss for American taxpayers.
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Old 04-17-2008, 09:43 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Seriously, fuck Isreal. We send them billions of dollars and in their first major war with 5 Arab countries they won in a day, they don't need our help.
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If anyone has any inkling of knowledge about military and military tactics would realize that military hardware alone does not make a "strong fighting force." It takes training and proper personnel which is the reason why Israel's military is second to none.
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Old 04-17-2008, 11:14 AM   #14 (permalink)

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Seriously, fuck Isreal. We send them billions of dollars and in their first major war with 5 Arab countries they won in a day, they don't need our help.
don't know much about this topic do ya?
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Old 04-17-2008, 11:24 AM   #15 (permalink)

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as far as the government goes, I agree 100 percent.

The people are just like people anywhere else though... so I don't want them becoming victims of an unstable situation.

Glad I don't live there, though!!!

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Old 04-17-2008, 11:27 AM   #16 (permalink)

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ethnocentric nationalism is a fucking sickness.

No one group of people deserve any piece of land over another. To think that way is beyond primitive.

jesus I fucking hate stupid people... *sigh*
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Old 04-17-2008, 11:28 AM   #17 (permalink)

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furthermore, Jews who feel somehow entitled to a 'holy land' are delusional. As is anyone else who thinks that way.
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Old 04-17-2008, 12:28 PM   #18 (permalink)
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If anyone has any inkling of knowledge about military and military tactics would realize that military hardware alone does not make a "strong fighting force." It takes training and proper personnel which is the reason why Israel's military is second to none.
No, its the unlimited resources courtesy of the United States piggy bank. This includes fuel.

Under a 1975 Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) the USA guaranteed all Israel's oil needs in the event of a crisis. This Memorandum of Understanding is quietly renewed every five years. It commits U.S. taxpayers to maintain a strategic U.S. reserve for Israel, equivalent to $3 billion in 2002 dollars. Special legislation was enacted to exempt Israel from restrictions on oil exports from the USA. Moreover, the U.S. government agreed to divert oil from the USA, even if this causes domestic shortages. The U.S. government also guaranteed delivery of oil in U.S. tankers if commercial shippers become unable or unwilling to carry oil from the USA to Israel.


Memorandum of Agreement between the Governments of the United States of America and Israel - Oil, March 26, 1979

The oil supply arrangement of September 1, 1975, between the Governments of the United States and Israel, annexed hereto, remains in effect. A memorandum of agreement shall be agreed upon and concluded to provide an oil supply arrangement for a total of 15 years, including the 5 years provided in the September 1, 1975 arrangement.

The memorandum of agreement, including the commencement of this arrangement and pricing provisions, will be mutually agreed upon by the parties within sixty days following the entry into force of the Treaty of Peace between Egypt and Israel.

It is the intention of the parties that prices paid by Israel for oil provided by the United States hereunder shall be comparable to world market prices current at the time of transfer, and that in any event the United States will be reimbursed by Israel for the costs incurred by the United States in providing oil to Israel hereunder.

Experts provided for in the September 1, 1975 arrangement will meet on request to discuss matters arising under this relationship.

The United States administration undertakes to seek promptly additional statutory authorization that may be necessary for full implementation of this arrangement.

M. Dayan
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Cyrus R. Vance [at the time, Secretary of State]
For the Government of the United States


Annex to the Memorandum of Agreement concerning 0il

ANNEX

Israel will make its own independent arrangements for oil supply to meet its requirements through normal procedures. In the event Israel is unable to secure its needs in this way, the United States Government, upon notification of this fact by the Government of Israel, will act as follows for five years, at the end of which period either side can terminate this arrangement on one-year's notice.

(a) If the oil Israel needs to meet all its normal requirements for domestic consumption is unavailable for purchase in circumstances where no quantitative restrictions exist on the ability of the United States to procure oil to meet its normal requirements, the United States Government will promptly make oil available for purchase by Israel to meet all of the aforementioned normal requirements of Israel. If Israel is unable to secure the necessary means to transport such oil to Israel, the United States Government will make every effort to help Israel secure the necessary means of transport.

(b) If the oil Israel needs to meet all of its normal requirements for domestic consumption is unavailable for purchase in circumstances where quantitative restrictions through embargo or otherwise also prevent the United States from procuring oil to meet its normal requirements, the United States Government will promptly make oil available for purchase by Israel in accordance with the International Energy Agency conservation and allocation formula, as applied by the United States Government, in order to meet Israel's essential requirements. If Israel is unable to secure the necessary means to transport such oil to Israel, the United States Government will make every effort to help Israel secure the necessary means of transport.

Israeli and United States experts will meet annually or more frequently at the request of either party, to review Israel's continuing oil requirement.

Source: Israeli Foreign Ministry
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Old 04-17-2008, 12:31 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Ah, you're so right. Israel "buying" these weapons with US taxpayer money is clearly much more advantageous to the US than some other country buying the same weapons with their own money. It's a pretty subtle concept, need to be very smart to get it.
Lol, for sure. How could you be so stupid? Hey, I have this gun here. I'm going to give you $500, and then you buy the gun from me for $500. Fair enough?
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funny wright calling someone racist....
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