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Old 08-01-2007, 08:24 AM   #1 (permalink)

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Obama might send troops into Pakistan

Reactions from white-guilt liberals a.k.a Obama supporters?

This would create a little chaos in the region, would it not? Maybe drag India into the conflict somehow?

Sounds good to me, but I would send in small, elite squads and not station entire brigades in the region.

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WASHINGTON - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama said Wednesday that he would possibly send troops into Pakistan to hunt down terrorists, an attempt to show strength when his chief rival has described his foreign policy skills as naive.

The Illinois senator warned Pakistani President Gen. Pervez Musharraf that he must do more to shut down terrorist operations in his country and evict foreign fighters under an Obama presidency, or Pakistan will risk a U.S. troop invasion and losing hundreds of millions of dollars in U.S. military aid.

"Let me make this clear," Obama said in a speech prepared for delivery at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars. "There are terrorists holed up in those mountains who murdered 3,000 Americans. They are plotting to strike again. It was a terrible mistake to fail to act when we had a chance to take out an al-Qaida leadership meeting in 2005. If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will."

The excerpts were provided by the Obama campaign in advance of the speech.

Obama's speech comes the week after his rivalry with New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton erupted into a public fight over their diplomatic intentions.

Obama said he would be willing to meet leaders of rogue states like Cuba, North Korea and Iran without conditions, an idea that Clinton criticized as irresponsible and naive. Obama responded by using the same words to describe Clinton's vote to authorize the Iraq war and called her "Bush-Cheney lite."

The speech was a condemnation of President Bush's leadership in the war on terror. He said the focus on Iraq has left Americans in more danger than before Sept. 11, 2001, and that Bush has misrepresented the enemy as Iraqis who are fighting a civil war instead of the terrorists responsible for the attacks six years ago.

"He confuses our mission," Obama said, then he spread responsibility to lawmakers like Clinton who voted for the invasion. "By refusing to end the war in Iraq, President Bush is giving the terrorists what they really want, and what the Congress voted to give them in 2002: a U.S. occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences."

Obama said that as commander in chief he would remove troops from Iraq and putting them "on the right battlefield in Afghanistan and Pakistan." He said he would send at least two more brigades to Afghanistan and increase nonmilitary aid to the country by $1 billion.

He also said he would create a three-year, $5 billion program to share intelligence with allies worldwide to take out terrorist networks from Indonesia to Africa.
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Old 08-01-2007, 08:27 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Yeah, the mosque they blew up and the 80,000 troops they sent to the border area are a definite sign that Pakistan loves terrorism and that the United States should invade yet ANOTHER sovereign nation.
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Old 08-01-2007, 08:35 AM   #3 (permalink)

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That would be an incredibly stupid move, but the article itself implies that this speech is calculated to garner support from certain groups. It's amazing that moderate or center-right politics are now classified as "liberal" in this country though!
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Obama says he would take out the troops in Iraq. He hasn't even taken office and he's already promising a troop withdrawal. And if he does take office, he's got 4 years to fulfill that promise until the next election.

He wants to share intelligence with our allies in three years?
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Obama showing his naivety again, as Hilary would say. I thought she smoked him on that question about meeting with leaders during the youtube debate too.
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Obama showing his naivety again, as Hilary would say. I thought she smoked him on that question about meeting with leaders during the youtube debate too.
Politically this is a loser for him. He should fire the advisor who told him to say this. It is also a really bad idea.
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At first I thought this was about Osama threatening Musharaf.
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Maybe Hillary will win and have Obama as her vice. We'll call it the 'Mixed House', and make all kinds of dumb jokes about interracial sex. That's perhaps the most relevant thing that could come out of this election.

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Politically this is a loser for him. He should fire the advisor who told him to say this. It is also a really bad idea.
Not really, because Bin Laden is most likely in Pakistan. The average joe doesnt understand the implications of invading Pakistan, and probably thinks we should at least send some troops there to get Bin Laden. In reality, it wouldnt be a good idea. But generically, it sounds good.
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