[RuSSiaNThuG]

Originally Posted by Xenu

Really?

Well if you had read the wiki page you just posted...

Concerning the performance of the aircraft, it has been reported by many fighter pilots that the Tu-95 was able to out-accelerate them for a short distance, especially with the SEPECAT Jaguar.

And this:
Tu-20/95/142 Bear

It is rumored that Bear is known to be able to out accelerate contemporary western interceptors. This hard to believe fact can be accounted by use of variable-pitch propellers of NK-12M turboprops. Modern jets need to use afterburners to keep up with accelerating Bear. In fact, one of the photo showing Panavia Toronado using reheat on one of the engines while pursuing this remarkable bomber.

Which happens to be exactly what I said:
So I was right.

fanu has some sort of a massive chip on his shoulder when it comes to russia

i think the serbs ploughed the croats so hard he's now got it in for all orthodox

[Rematch]

Originally Posted by Xenu

They have great acceleration and have been known to momentarily pull away from fighters.

Do these fighters by any chance also have propellers?

[cogitoergosum]

North Atlantic FTW.

[Fanu]

Originally Posted by Xenu

Which happens to be exactly what I said:
So I was right.

thought you were saying those bombers had better acceleration than fighter jets (which would be absurd)

momentarily pulling away from fighters does not mean TU-95 has a better acceleration

btw i read about those TU-95 in the past, and fighter pilots that intercepted them said they were so loud, they couldnt get very close to them or they couldnt hear shit

pilots and crew in those bombers go deaf after service lol

[Fanu]

Originally Posted by RuSSiaNThuG

fanu has some sort of a massive chip on his shoulder when it comes to russia

unlike you who acts like its still soviet russia..

Originally Posted by RuSSiaNThuG

i think the serbs ploughed the croats so hard he's now got it in for all orthodox

serbs never touched us
and out of orthodox countries i only think badly of greece with its retarded stance on naming of republic of macedonia

[Artigo]

They're Tornadoes. Why exactly are they following the Russian bomber?

[Pugilistic]

You guys are mocking the Bear for having propellers? You guys know that the AC-130 and V-22 are also propeller aircraft, right?

[TheMMAn]

LOL at science ceasing to exist when you guys start talking about National Pride issues.

For those of you who think that the Bear even compares to a typical Western fighter jet, in terms of speed, or acceleration, please do some research on power-to-weight ratio.

Assuming the more powerful NK-12MV engines, an F-16 has three and a half times as much thrust-to-weight. That is dry thrust, with no afterburners.

Saying that a huge, lumbering aircraft with a max air speed of 450 mph even remotely COMPARES to a machII jet, in terms of speed, is the height of stupidity.


This is not a US vs Russia issue it is a gravity and thrust issue. The Tu 95, while originally developed in the 1950's, is a decent aircraft, in the arena it is intended to operate - long-range bomber.

Even though it is a turboprop, the NK-12MV is the most powerful TP on the planet. The Bear actually stacks up pretty evenly against most of it's turobjet competition.

[TheMMAn]

Originally Posted by Pugilistic

You guys are mocking the Bear for having propellers? You guys know that the AC-130 and V-22 are also propeller aircraft, right?

The C-130 is a transport aircraft, and the Osprey can take-off and land vertically. Your comparison has no basis, unless you want to compare with the US's main long-range bomber, which is the supersonic B-1

[RuSSiaNThuG]

Originally Posted by TheMMAn

LOL at science ceasing to exist when you guys start talking about National Pride issues.

For those of you who think that the Bear even compares to a typical Western fighter jet, in terms of speed, or acceleration, please do some research on power-to-weight ratio.

Assuming the more powerful NK-12MV engines, an F-16 has three and a half times as much thrust-to-weight. That is dry thrust, with no afterburners.

Saying that a huge, lumbering aircraft with a max air speed of 450 mph even remotely COMPARES to a machII jet, in terms of speed, is the height of stupidity.


This is not a US vs Russia issue it is a gravity and thrust issue. The Tu 95, while originally developed in the 1950's, is a decent aircraft, in the arena it is intended to operate - long-range bomber.

Even though it is a turboprop, the NK-12MV is the most powerful TP on the planet. The Bear actually stacks up pretty evenly against most of it's turobjet competition.

i know nothing about airplanes


but i do know two things


1. my router is locked down


2. russia sweeden 2 0