[23andbeginner]

I told him he appologized and he is going to vote republican and donate a couple thousand to Bush now. No worries he's back in line :-)

[quick5pnt0cobra]

Originally Posted by dutchgenius

i dare anyone to tell him to his face that anarchy is dumb

Don't worry, Tim will be telling him that not too long from now.

[AZheat]

Originally Posted by Midget

Anarchism does not work. Does anyone know of a functioning Anarchist society? What Monson is describing is a world where there is no social control and everyone gets along because they believe it is in their best interests to do so. It is a genuinely wonderful idea, but it is not at all rational.

Exactly.

His statement are some of the most idiotic and unrealistic things I've ever heard.

[LesbianFistFite]

Does anyone know of a functioning Anarchist society?

The plains indians were a functioning anarchist society.

That is, until whitey showed up.

[chdnny]

Originally Posted by juggo

Yeah, he's a bit of a nutjob IMO with his ideas of no government, no police, no private ownership,etc., and a hypocrite (in that he doesn't live what he preaches, he profits from capitalism, he's just as much a cog in the capitalistic machine as anyone else, he even wears corporate-sponsored shorts and all kinds of shit like that).

But I don't give a shit. People are interested in him because he's one hell of a grappler and a good MMA fighter, not for his political beliefs.

yea this guy got a head on his shoulders,

if he is such an extremist, he would not try to get sponsors and advertise them, but he does live in a capitalist nation and he needs to make a good living, so

it just fairy land stuff

whatever

[indoslikeacdc]

Originally Posted by Ninja271

He talks a bit like any sophmore under graduate at my college.

He has a Master's in Psychology.

Originally Posted by juggo

Yeah, he's a bit of a nutjob IMO with his ideas of no government, no police, no private ownership,etc., and a hypocrite (in that he doesn't live what he preaches, he profits from capitalism, he's just as much a cog in the capitalistic machine as anyone else, he even wears corporate-sponsored shorts and all kinds of shit like that).

But I don't give a shit. People are interested in him because he's one hell of a grappler and a good MMA fighter, not for his political beliefs.

Hypocrite? His sponsors are people he's friends with and support, it's not like he has a big Coca-Cola sign on his shorts. He's said many times before that he can't live the way he used to because of his family. It's one thing to live without possessions when your on your own, but it's another thing entirely when you live in a capitalistic world and have two children to feed and clothe.

Originally Posted by strangesub

hes got alot of holes in his theory.what will make people want to beacome doctors and such without a reward system? i like his train of thought but to say it so flagrantly you must approach alll apsects of the subject. i like him more now.

It's not like it's some crazy theory that's never worked before.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kibbutz
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Revolution

Both fell eventually (although the Spanish one was involuntary) but are two real world examples of Anarchist principles in action.

[Douglas]

WOW! I never would have guessed a guy with a big anarchy symbol tattooed on his body would be into anarchy. Weird.

[23andbeginner]

Originally Posted by pwmullins

I agree. He's an idealist, but his ideas have a lot of holes that can easily be poked in them. Reality would not allow for anarchy to work. Not that I would ever have the balls to tell him this...

Why as an anarchist he will give you every right to think whatever you think and he'd be more than happy to talk about it. You expect him to rip your head of or something?

[hohner]

Originally Posted by LesbianFistFite

The plains indians were a functioning anarchist society.

That is, until whitey showed up.

They were only sort of anarchist. There were still chiefs, elders, and a warrior class that played a pivotal role in the life of every tribe.

[quick5pnt0cobra]

Originally Posted by juggo

he even wears corporate-sponsored shorts and all kinds of shit like that).

Good point. I agree with some of the stuff he says, but then again some of it is a little out there.