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Old 06-17-2008, 02:37 AM   #1 (permalink)

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Military Recruiters Take Teenagers for a Ride

Hawaii teens contend they were duped into Navy
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HONOLULU, HI — Two Hawaii 18-year-olds claim they were scammed into joining the Navy.

Cory Miyasato and Joseph Mauga Jr. said a Navy recruiting officer promised them they would be able to get a free, four-year college education before going off to sea.
But the two recent graduates from Kapolei High School soon found out they would be going off to boot camp and then full-time active duty, scrubbing and painting ships.

“The full-ride scholarship really interested me,” said Miyasato, an honor student. “I am a very trusting person. I thought the U.S. government would be truthful to me.”
They didn’t find out the truth until they had already enlisted in the Navy’s Delayed Entry Program on May 29.

The military is under pressure to keep producing fresh troops, and Hawaii recruiters are expected to produce 30 new enlistees for the Navy this month, said Petty Officer 1st Class David McKee, a spokesman for the Navy Recruiting Station Los Angeles, which includes Hawaii.

The recruiter, Petty Officer 1st Class Jimmy Pecadeso, will be investigated, McKee said.
“Nobody should be railroaded into buying a car, a house or joining the military under false pretenses by being misled,” McKee said. “When it comes out that a recruiter has misled an applicant, it reflects poorly on all recruiters and the Navy and the military. The military does take this seriously.”

Both Miyasato and Mauga can opt out of enlistment with no penalty before going to basic training, McKee said. Their families are seeking immediate discharges and written assurances that the boys’ careers won’t be affected. They were about to graduate and had already enrolled at local colleges when Pecadeso signed them up.

Miyasato’s mother, Jayne Arasaki, was skeptical of Pecadeso’s pledges so she met with him at the recruiting station. “He did lie to me,” she said. “He said the Navy would pay for four years of college, and then Cory would be obligated to serve four years.”

The day after she met Pecadeso, he picked up both boys and paid for them to spend the night at an airport hotel, saying they needed to get an early start on medical testing and security clearance at Pearl Harbor. He promised to have them back by noon, but they weren’t returned until nearly 24 hours later, late for graduation practice. Both of their mothers tried to reach them by phone, but their cell phones were confiscated on base as a security measure.

“They were just going to see what they had to offer,” said Gloria Mauga. “I did not know my child was going to come back enlisted. They couldn’t even call to ask us advice. It’s like they kidnapped our sons.”

There were 2,456 claims of recruiter “irregularities” among 22,000 recruiters and nearly 318,000 new enlistees in 2006, according to the U.S. State Department. Most problems involved “concealment, falsification or undue influence.” About one in five claims was substantiated.


Ive heard of recruiters where I live pulling some shady shit too. Anyone else have a bad experience with military recruiters?
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Old 06-17-2008, 02:41 AM   #2 (permalink)
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did they force them to sign their names? or did the young men sign their names on their own?
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Old 06-17-2008, 02:44 AM   #3 (permalink)

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^^^I think you didnt read the part where they promised to pay for their college first and after they graduated they wold be obligated to serve.
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Recruiters are liars.This is nothing new. But I expect to hear more of it.
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did they force them to sign their names? or did the young men sign their names on their own?
It's called misrepresentation and fraudulent inducement, douchebag.
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who signed up though? those kids should know better. and the navy shouldnt want stupid kids anyways. but when kids act stupid, i usually dont feel bad for them.

hell, the navy is safe, all they will get is staying out of trouble, getting a job, learning skills, and getting money for college. boo hoo.

they should think about these things before signing, they just wanted more. they werent mad about being in the navy. they were mad at being in the navy with less than they want.


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Recruiters are liars.This is nothing new. But I expect to hear more of it.
It's called misrepresentation and fraudulent inducement, douchebag.
Those kids should be grateful. In the old days they'd be drinking at the pub one evening, and waking at sea in the morning.
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who signed up though? those kids should know better. and the navy shouldnt want stupid kids anyways. but when kids act stupid, i usually dont feel bad for them.
They coldnt have been that stupid, the one kid was an honor student. They were just scammed plain and simple and anyone can get scammed.



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they should think about these things before signing, they just wanted more. they werent mad about being in the navy. they were mad at being in the navy with less than they want.
LOL at "they wanted more". They simply wanted what was promised to them. Should people expect to get fucked over routinely?
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who signed up though? those kids should know better. and the navy shouldnt want stupid kids anyways. but when kids act stupid, i usually dont feel bad for them.

hell, the navy is safe, all they will get is staying out of trouble, getting a job, learning skills, and getting money for college. boo hoo.

they should think about these things before signing, they just wanted more. they werent mad about being in the navy. they were mad at being in the navy with less than they want.


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only b/c bleeding heart people would get mad at them.

if the military could get away with it, they'd do it in a heartbeat.

i agree with LB, it used to be way worse, but people believed more in not being duped and personal repsonsibility if you were duped.
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OH MEIN GOTT! Recruiters lie? WTF,Gov?
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