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Old 07-26-2006, 07:10 PM   #1 (permalink)

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Iranians volunteer to fight Israel

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http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/....ap/index.html

Group heads for 'holy war' in Lebanon

TEHRAN, Iran (AP) -- Surrounded by yellow Hezbollah flags, more than 60 Iranian volunteers set off Wednesday to join what they called a holy war against Israeli forces in Lebanon.

The group -- ranging from teenagers to grandfathers -- plans to join about 200 other volunteers on the way to the Turkish border, which they hope to cross Thursday. They plan to reach Lebanon via Syria on the weekend.

Organizers said the volunteers are carrying no weapons, and it was not clear whether Turkey would allow them to pass.

A Turkish Foreign Ministry official, speaking on condition of anonymity, would not say Wednesday if Turkey would allow them to cross. Iranians, however, can enter Turkey without a visa and stay for three months.

Iran says it will not send regular forces to aid Hezbollah, but apparently it will not attempt to stop volunteer guerrillas. Iran and Syria are Hezbollah's main sponsors.

"We are just the first wave of Islamic warriors from Iran," said Amir Jalilinejad, chairman of the Student Justice Movement, a nongovernment group that helped recruit the fighters. "More will come from here and other Muslim nations around the world. Hezbollah needs our help."

Military service is mandatory in Iran, and nearly every man has at least some basic training. Some hard-liners have more extensive drills as members of the Basiji corps, a paramilitary network linked to the powerful Revolutionary Guard.

Other volunteers, such as 72-year-old Hasan Honavi, have combat experience from the 1980-88 war with Iraq.

"God made this decision for me," said Honavi, a grandfather and one of the oldest volunteers. "I still have fight left in me for a holy war."

The group, chanting and marching in military-style formation, assembled Wednesday in a part of Tehran's main cemetery that is reserved for war dead and other "martyrs."

They prayed on Persian carpets and linked hands, with their shoes and bags piled alongside. Few had any battle-type gear and some arrived in dress shoes or plastic sandals.

Some bowed before a memorial to Hezbollah-linked suicide bombers who carried out the 1983 blast at Marine barracks in Beirut that killed 241 U.S. servicemen. An almost simultaneous bombing killed 56 French peacekeepers.

Speakers praised Hezbollah leader Sheik Hassan Nasrallah and laid scorn on Muslim leaders -- including their own government -- for not sending battlefield assistance to Hezbollah since the battles erupted two weeks ago.

Even if the volunteers fail to reach Lebanon, their mobilization is an example of how Iranians are rallying to Hezbollah through organizations outside official circles.

Iran insists it is not directly involved in the conflict on the military side, but it remains the group's key pipeline for money. Iran has dismissed Israel's claims that Hezbollah has been supplied with upgraded Iranian missiles that have reached Haifa and other points across northern Israel.

"We cannot stand by and watch out Hezbollah brothers fight alone," said Komeil Baradaran, a 21-year-old Basiji member. "If we are to die in Lebanon, then we will go to heaven. It is our duty as Muslims to fight."
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so... Israel's goal was to eradicate Hizbolah huh... talk about backfire...
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Old 07-26-2006, 07:48 PM   #3 (permalink)
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This will eventually lead to a conflict with Iran vs. U.S.A.
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so... Israel's goal was to eradicate Hizbolah huh... talk about backfire...
LMAO. I am impartial...well as much as you can be on something like this.

But Israel's plan was to secure safety for itself for the next 100 years. Israel's number 1 enemy--Iran. I think that there is alot more at work here than meets the layman's eye.

There would be too many international obstacles to attack Iran "unprovoked" although Iran has been waging a war by proxy with Israel for decades.

The international community cannot come to a consensus on how to deal with Iran. Although, most governments will condemn Israeli targeting uranium enrichment facilities, most will secretly appreciate this simple solution.


IMO, Israel desires war. They are tired of 60 years of restraint. In a matter of weeks, Israel could decapitate the head of Iran, Syria, and Lebanon. Which may have been their plan...all along.
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LMAO. I am impartial...well as much as you can be on something like this.

But Israel's plan was to secure safety for itself for the next 100 years. Israel's number 1 enemy--Iran. I think that there is alot more at work here than meets the layman's eye.

There would be too many international obstacles to attack Iran "unprovoked" although Iran has been waging a war by proxy with Israel for decades.

The international community cannot come to a consensus on how to deal with Iran. Although, most governments will condemn Israeli targeting uranium enrichment facilities, most will secretly appreciate this simple solution.


IMO, Israel desires war. They are tired of 60 years of restraint. In a matter of weeks, Israel could decapitate the head of Iran, Syria, and Lebanon. Which may have been their plan...all along.
Especially since America is going to do the hard work.

some of these are yet to happen
(Iran, Iraq, Syria, Afgan, and their coupe of Pakistan)
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Especially since America is going to do the hard work.

some of these are yet to happen
(Iran, Iraq, Syria, Afgan, and their coupe of Pakistan)

Well, I'm trying to be objective. The way I see it, most Americans support Israel. Altough, there is most certainly an anti-war sentiment, most Americans have no problem fighting that doesn't involve invasion. So I see this going two ways, IF America does get involved.

1. Continuing supply of Israel with weapons and intel. This would probably be all that is necessary to destroy the Ayatollah.

2. Air and naval support. I believe this would be as bold as the next administration would go. However, Iran, syria, and whoever would be left in ashes.
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The way I see it, most Americans support Israel
I think it's a lot less the supporting Isreal as it is the disliking muslims...
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more than 60 Iranian volunteers set off Wednesday to join what they called a holy war against Israeli forces in Lebanon.
60 isn't a big deal. Seriously, the IDF kills at least 60 arabs an hour so this does what?
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60 isn't a big deal. Seriously, the IDF kills at least 60 arabs an hour so this does what?

True, Arab sympathizers are engaging in "wishful thinking". America, regardless of international public opinion, shows an enormous amount of restraint.

If Israel is directly attacked by Iran, they don't give a shit about public opinion and will annihilate the whole of IRAN in a matter of weeks.
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