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Old 06-17-2008, 07:05 PM   #11 (permalink)

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Members of the Admin. were saying shit that was not approved or confirmed by intelligence. They were cherry picking weak info and not indicating the degree of confidence. Information that did not help them in their goals was discarded and off the radar. It was a stacked deck and the Bush regime was responsible for the hand that was dealt to america.
I suppose we'll never know how much 'cherry picking' actually occurred to rationalize their subsequent actions and let's agree that this is common practice when any regime has an agenda. Not to defend the Bush Admin, but they didn't invent this. It happened in the Kennedy, Johnson and Nixon administrations as well. Does that make it right and justified?

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Old 06-17-2008, 07:15 PM   #12 (permalink)

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I doubt that would be a record. I may not remember this correctly, but didn't Kerry switch around on Iraq numerous times in the same week at one point.
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Old 06-17-2008, 09:46 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I thought the Bush regime lies created the misinformation. They wanted that war no matter what, even before 9-11. The CIA was an accomplice.
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Old 06-17-2008, 09:47 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I suppose we'll never know how much 'cherry picking' actually occurred to rationalize their subsequent actions and let's agree that this is common practice when any regime has an agenda. Not to defend the Bush Admin, but they didn't invent this. It happened in the Kennedy, Johnson and Nixon administrations as well. Does that make it right and justified?

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Old 06-17-2008, 11:51 PM   #15 (permalink)

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I thought the Bush regime lies created the misinformation. They wanted that war no matter what, even before 9-11. The CIA was an accomplice.
the had the same views as president clinton and democrat leaders. that saddam was a threat who had WMD's. foreign intel and our intel got it wrong. we knew he had them, b/c we gave it to them. he got rid of them when he saw our assembling for attack, then bluffed to make us more afraid to invade him.


but listen to democrats tell it themselves. seriously watch the democratic leaders go. it wont be fun to listen to democrat leaders saying the same stuff with the same intel.


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Old 06-18-2008, 05:09 AM   #16 (permalink)

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Bushes lies = caused by misinformation from the CIA. You would have made the same call.
Jesus Christ, I think I've heard every deranged conservative lie then you guys come out of the woodworks to prove me wrong.

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Let's play a fun game:

Name one lie that Bushco knowingly told concerning WMD.

The "lie" has to be a statement that the administration knowingly (or should have reasonably known) knew was false,concerning the build up to the war
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Let's play a fun game:

Name one lie that Bushco knowingly told concerning WMD.

The "lie" has to be a statement that the administration knowingly (or should have reasonably known) knew was false,concerning the build up to the war
Bush created a special propaganda team to invent justifications for invading Iraq (Office of Special Plans), but “the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy” of invading Iraq no matter what, according to official documents of our closest ally, the British.
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Bush created a special propaganda team to invent justifications for invading Iraq (Office of Special Plans), but “the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy” of invading Iraq no matter what, according to official documents of our closest ally, the British.
What was/were the lie/lies? If you believe the DS memo, it only says they were motivated to lie. Again, point out a lie. Should be relatively easy.
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What was/were the lie/lies? If you believe the DS memo, it only says they were motivated to lie. Again, point out a lie. Should be relatively easy.
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