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Old 06-28-2008, 01:47 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Who the fuck cares about "flip flops"?

Since when is adamant insistence on never changing your mind the mark of a quality leader or politican?

I fail to see why "flip flopping" has become a pejorative term that we are supposed to dislike. On difficult issues, changing your mind based on evidence is a GOOD thing. I deeply distrust people who never change their minds; they're either idiots or zealots, usually both.

If I as a lawyer never changed my mind about the best strategy/decision for a litigation, I'd be a fucking imbecile. You have to constantly reevaluate and analyze your options based on evidence and circumstances. Yet somehow when it comes to politicians, people insist that nobody ever change position. Idiocy.
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Old 06-28-2008, 02:13 PM   #12 (permalink)
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LOL, you fall for for that nuanced language. Pay a little closer attention please. MC Cain votes against veterans health benefits all the time. Its why he earned a big Fat "D" for his anti-military benefits votes.
Pay a lot more atttenion, this is about the GI Bill....
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Old 06-28-2008, 03:13 PM   #13 (permalink)

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I came to post what Zankou said.

Also, the government has no right to decide whether or not we can or can't have no-gi competitions.
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Old 06-28-2008, 03:15 PM   #14 (permalink)

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We need a flip flop counter for McCain. I've lost track already.
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Old 06-28-2008, 03:21 PM   #15 (permalink)

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Who the fuck cares about "flip flops"?

Since when is adamant insistence on never changing your mind the mark of a quality leader or politican?

I fail to see why "flip flopping" has become a pejorative term that we are supposed to dislike. On difficult issues, changing your mind based on evidence is a GOOD thing. I deeply distrust people who never change their minds; they're either idiots or zealots, usually both.

If I as a lawyer never changed my mind about the best strategy/decision for a litigation, I'd be a fucking imbecile. You have to constantly reevaluate and analyze your options based on evidence and circumstances. Yet somehow when it comes to politicians, people insist that nobody ever change position. Idiocy.
In usual 'flip-flops', the position is changed either by new evidence or a different situation. For example, being for the war when it first started, but now against the war since there is evidence that the war is spiking terrorist recruitment. Or, being for military action in Afghanistan, but against military action in Iraq because the latter is not relevant to the war on terror. There was no situational nor informational changes during the course of McCain's flip-flop on the GI-Bill. McCain was vehemently opposed to the bill a few weeks ago, and a few weeks ago he had all and the same information about the bill as he does now.
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Old 06-28-2008, 04:22 PM   #16 (permalink)
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This new GI Bill is about the best fucking thing ever. It will give me up to like $90k for school, plus pay most of my mortgage for the whole for years. Epic.
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I hope we get someone in that supports the troops, so sick of these fat ass liars making bank why the true Americans fighting for us are financially robbed. McCain is old and senile probably doesnt even know he flip flopped.

The next Reagan, stand him up and move his arm with a stick......
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Old 06-28-2008, 07:04 PM   #18 (permalink)

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Flip flopping only matters when the other side is doing it.
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Also, the government has no right to decide whether or not we can or can't have no-gi competitions.
God damn it, I was like 5 posts away from making that very same joke.
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Also, the government has no right to decide whether or not we can or can't have no-gi competitions.
McCain wants to stop that he says it is barbaric.
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