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Old 07-05-2008, 09:40 AM   #1 (permalink)

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Lord Chief Justice: Sharia law 'could have UK role'

BBC NEWS | UK | Sharia law 'could have UK role'
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Principles of sharia law could play a role in some parts of the legal system, the Lord Chief Justice has said.

Lord Phillips, the most senior judge in England and Wales, said there was no reason sharia law's principles could not be used in mediation

The Archbishop of Canterbury prompted controversy when he said use of certain aspects of the law "seems unavoidable".

Severe physical punishments such as flogging, stoning and the cutting off of hands would not be acceptable, he said.
LOL. This fool will be among the first to be executed under full blown Sharia law. How dare he say that some parts of Sharia are not acceptable????

And when we're talking about Londonistan and Eurabia sophisticated European liberals laugh at us for being backward American rednecks.
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Old 07-05-2008, 09:54 AM   #2 (permalink)

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LOL. This fool will be among the first to be executed under full blown Sharia law. How dare he say that some parts of Sharia are not acceptable????

And when we're talking about Londonistan and Eurabia sophisticated European liberals laugh at us for being backward American rednecks.
SOme of the stuff you say does seem a bit KKKish, but I agree here. I couldnt give a shit if this sounds racist or not, but what is the point in going to another country with its own culture and rather than blending and adding your own you simply assimilate them. Look, Im all for the mixing pot idea, I love rap, eat curry, jerk off to 'memoirs of geisha' but if they introduce laws that make me a criminals for drawing a picutre of a man who lived 17 hundred years ago then Im off to Austrailia or Japan or some other country that hasnt lost its balls.
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Old 07-05-2008, 10:26 AM   #3 (permalink)

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I just don't understand this concept of importing people with very different religious and social views, and then becoming shocked when they cling to theirs and refuse to conform with the norms of their new host, and then making concessions to them. There's a reason that their country of origin x is so shitty - the people. And they're going to do the same to any place that they inhabit. Before long, Sharia will operate at parity with English & Welsh law.
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Old 07-05-2008, 11:53 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Are you dense? Or just dumb?

The freedom to contract is a part of British Law. You can contract to do anything you like, as long as it doesnt contradict other parts of the law.

I can contract with LavrentiBeria that any agreement we have will be judged by the laws of the Congo and should a dispute arise Maximus will be our arbiter.

Jews in UK already do this, as do some other groups.
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Old 07-05-2008, 12:10 PM   #5 (permalink)

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Holy quote mining Batman! The original poster gave almost exactly the opposite meaning from the entire text of the article just by lifting a few sentences out of context. Read the entire article, he even linked to it.

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Sharia law 'could have UK role'

Principles of sharia law could play a role in some parts of the legal system, the Lord Chief Justice has said.

Lord Phillips, the most senior judge in England and Wales, said there was no reason sharia law's principles could not be used in mediation.

However, he said this would still be subject to the "jurisdiction of the English and Welsh courts".

Sharia is a set of principles which govern the way many Muslims believe they should live their life.

The Archbishop of Canterbury prompted controversy when he said use of certain aspects of the law "seems unavoidable".

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English common law already allows us to go to mediation to whichever third party we wish
-Inayat Bunglawala
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In a speech at the East London Muslim Centre in Whitechapel, Lord Phillips said that sharia suffered from "widespread misunderstanding".

Lord Phillips said: "There is no reason why sharia principles, or any other religious code, should not be the basis for mediation or other forms of alternative dispute resolution.

"It must be recognised, however, that any sanctions for a failure to comply with the agreed terms of mediation would be drawn from the laws of England and Wales."

Severe physical punishments such as flogging, stoning and the cutting off of hands would not be acceptable, he said.

He added: "There can be no question of such courts sitting in this country, or such sanctions being applied here.

"So far as the law is concerned, those who live in this country are governed by English and Welsh law and subject to the jurisdiction of the English and Welsh courts."

'Misunderstood'

The Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr Rowan Williams, had been misunderstood when it was reported in February that he said British Muslims could be governed by sharia law, the judge said.


Dr Williams suggested that sharia could play a role in "aspects of marital law, the regulation of financial transactions and authorised structures of mediation and conflict resolution".

Lord Phillips said: "It was not very radical to advocate embracing sharia law in the context of family disputes, for example, and our system already goes a long way towards accommodating the archbishop's suggestion.

"It is possible in this country for those who are entering into a contractual agreement to agree that the agreement shall be governed by a law other than English law."


Inayat Bunglawala from the Muslim Council of Britain told BBC News that sharia law applied only to civil matters.

He said: "I think it's important to clarify that English common law already allows us to go to mediation to whichever third party we wish. "So that is why you have sharia council, that is why you have Jewish courts. It is a truly voluntary arrangement.

"There is no parallel legal system. This system cannot override English common law system at all."
I would be interested to know what exactly would be the influence though. They mention marriage law, so does this mean that Brits can have 4 wives now? It is not clear from the article.
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Old 07-05-2008, 12:44 PM   #6 (permalink)

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I just don't understand this concept of importing people with very different religious and social views, and then becoming shocked when they cling to theirs and refuse to conform with the norms of their new host, and then making concessions to them. There's a reason that their country of origin x is so shitty - the people. And they're going to do the same to any place that they inhabit. Before long, Sharia will operate at parity with English & Welsh law.
Hey no need for the long explanation when it could all have been summed up by that sentence.
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That is pretty silly. If they allow some type of Sharia law that is only in respect to English & Welsh law, that might slide for a few years, but eventually soemone is going to want to stone their daughter for fucking a heathen. Then people will be pushing for all of Sharia law to be incorporated into national law, and then they will want it to apply to everyone, and it will go downhill from there.

This is a very bad idea, and shouldnt even be considered.
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Old 07-05-2008, 02:13 PM   #8 (permalink)

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In the Ottoman Empire last years it was known as the sickman of EUrope. Now Euopre is the sick man of the World.

What happend to the EUrope that conquered a world. TO the EUrope that fought two world wars. Whichever side they were on at least they had the will to power. THe desire to make thier existence known. IN 50 years those once strong people have become weak and roll over to the Enemy.
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I don't give a fuck about any misunderstandings. The rule of law is for all citizens and should be fuckin enough. Fuck, the British have become even bigger pussies than the French (who were never pussies in the first place)!
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What happend to the EUrope that conquered a world.
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