[RuSSiaNThuG]

It was the U.S. that was escalating the fighting. There would have been no war if we hadn't gone in first. We put arms in, they put arms in. We put advisors in, they answered with advisors. We put in Zairian para-commando battalions, they put in Cuban army troops. We brought in the S. African army, they brought in the Cuban army. And
they pushed us away. They blew us away because we were lying, we were covering ourselves with lies, and they were telling the truth. And it was not a war that we could fight. We didn't have interests there that should have been defended that way.

ouch

[RuSSiaNThuG]

just finished reading this transcript, printed it out, going to pass it round the office:-)

[Red Beer'd]

Originally Posted by ShaolinSubz

I think this is a very serious point. Take the Bush Nazi connection. Even though it is clear as day the implications of the John Buchanan expose, and how deep the corruption goes (All the way to the top deep into the senate) people read, believe, absorb and then shit it out. Its as though the real information concerning the real factors that govern the real realities of modern western politics are automatically camoflagued as waste product and shitted out by the majority. Why? Maybe some very clever, possibly Fraudian based techniques of population manipulation are at play? Maybe thats the basis of consumer driven capatalism? What ever it is, its so indemic its beyond a joke that its become farsical

So sayeth Mr. Orwell in Nineteen Eighty-Four:

"In a way, the world-view of the Party imposed itself most successfully on people incapable of understanding it. They could be made to accept the most flagrant violations of reality, because they never fully grasped the enormity of what was demanded of them, and were not sufficiently interested in public events to notice what was happening. By lack of understanding they remained sane. They simply swallowed everything, and what they swallowed did them no harm, because it left no residue behind, just as a grain of corn will pass undigested through the body of a bird."

[Flexwave2003]

Originally Posted by computer fogie

How do you feel about our government now, after reading what Stockwell said? Are you still as inclined to support anything they do, and believe everything they say?

I'm curious how people react to these revelations. I expect horror and outrage when unpleasant truths come out like this, but that never seems to happen with a sector of our population. There is a large block of people who, for different reasons, just never seem to register any outrage over anything our government does, no matter what it is. They don't really learn anything new, they just find ways to stay in the same place. I hope you aren't in that group.

Interesting, I wonder the same thing myself fogie because ive noticed similar attitudes as well.

[Execute]

Originally Posted by dylanransom

Some people never learn. The american people are 300 million of them...

I like how Bush was in the 'top 2' for 12 straight years, and now his son has been in for 8. Do some people even fucking think at all?

psst...hey- the president's daddy has been a spook for more than 40 years...

George Bush 1989-1993
Bill Clinton 1993-2001
George W. Bush 2001-2008
Hillary Clinton 2008-2016
Jeb Bush 2016-2024

Can you imagine if this trend continues?

[dylanransom]

Originally Posted by Execute

George Bush 1989-1993
Bill Clinton 1993-2001
George W. Bush 2001-2008
Hillary Clinton 2008-2016
Jeb Bush 2016-2024

Can you imagine if this trend continues?

Let's go back to '74 when HW was CIA director, then vice for 8 years, obviously pushing CIA agendas through the white house. Now remember that Bill CLinton is his new best friend.

Is ANYBODY paying attention?

[RuSSiaNThuG]

bump.

[Mithra]

Originally Posted by dylanransom

Let's go back to '74 when HW was CIA director, then vice for 8 years, obviously pushing CIA agendas through the white house. Now remember that Bill CLinton is his new best friend.

Is ANYBODY paying attention?

No, no one is paying attention

[melancholy]

this one deserves a bump

[negative_creep]

Originally Posted by SinisterKungFu

Reagan was a fucking scumbag. It's really unfortunate that Hinkley didn't have better aim. The world would have been better off if he had.

Bush was right behind him... would have made no difference.