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Old 05-23-2007, 02:11 PM   #41 (permalink)

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What makes you think he was/is lying??

Simply because it is horrible and you don't want to believe it?
What makes you think he's telling the truth?

Simply because you want to believe it?

People come out of the CIA all the time, choose a side and start peddling their wares.

How do you know if any of it is not Bullshit? Because he said so? Because he said he read stuff somebody else wrote?

What is it about this guy that strikes your truth bell over anyone else?

There are reams of text like this out there, how do you know which is propaganda and which is gospel?

Simply because you want to believe it?

How can you be certain?
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Old 05-23-2007, 02:49 PM   #42 (permalink)
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What makes you think he's telling the truth?

Simply because you want to believe it?

People come out of the CIA all the time, choose a side and start peddling their wares.

How do you know if any of it is not Bullshit? Because he said so? Because he said he read stuff somebody else wrote?

What is it about this guy that strikes your truth bell over anyone else?

There are reams of text like this out there, how do you know which is propaganda and which is gospel?

Simply because you want to believe it?

How can you be certain?
You can't be certain, however he provides a lot of evidence to support his claims...the CIA's response only serves to make it look guily.

Then you have the fact that the are corroborating facts all over the place...
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Old 05-23-2007, 04:07 PM   #43 (permalink)
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You can't be certain, however he provides a lot of evidence to support his claims...the CIA's response only serves to make it look guily.

Then you have the fact that the are corroborating facts all over the place...
He doesn't know what corroborating facts are.
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Old 08-09-2007, 03:43 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:19 AM   #45 (permalink)
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Old 10-30-2007, 01:06 AM   #46 (permalink)
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is that the fuckin novel?

good read tho
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Old 10-30-2007, 04:29 PM   #47 (permalink)

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where is amerciaoverall?
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Old 10-30-2007, 05:06 PM   #48 (permalink)

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I think this is a very serious point. Take the Bush Nazi connection. Even though it is clear as day the implications of the John Buchanan expose, and how deep the corruption goes (All the way to the top deep into the senate) people read, believe, absorb and then shit it out. Its as though the real information concerning the real factors that govern the real realities of modern western politics are automatically camoflagued as waste product and shitted out by the majority. Why? Maybe some very clever, possibly Fraudian based techniques of population manipulation are at play? Maybe thats the basis of consumer driven capatalism? What ever it is, its so indemic its beyond a joke that its become farsical
Very well said and good post about Stockwell. This is very much the way many people are. While some conspiracies (I hate calling them that because there are just as many on both sides of the fence) MAY not be entirely true it should be obvious to everyone the level of gross corruption that goes on in upper levels of government. It is all very well documented and the proof is there for all to see. You just have to look past FOX and CNN news to find it.

I think for many people to finally believe something of this magnitude, they need the accused party to come right out and admit what they've done in a press conference or something. It seems in many cases no amount of evidence will convince some people of what they've done.

BTW that was an excellent video you posted on Mike Ruppert (sp?) as well.
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Old 10-30-2007, 05:18 PM   #49 (permalink)

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I think this is a very serious point. Take the Bush Nazi connection. Even though it is clear as day the implications of the John Buchanan expose, and how deep the corruption goes (All the way to the top deep into the senate) people read, believe, absorb and then shit it out. Its as though the real information concerning the real factors that govern the real realities of modern western politics are automatically camoflagued as waste product and shitted out by the majority. Why? Maybe some very clever, possibly Fraudian based techniques of population manipulation are at play? Maybe thats the basis of consumer driven capatalism? What ever it is, its so indemic its beyond a joke that its become farsical
Bush Nazi connection, your a jackass! WTF, Bush Senior was an Allied Fighter Pilot.
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Old 10-30-2007, 05:59 PM   #50 (permalink)
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Some people never learn. The american people are 300 million of them...

I like how Bush was in the 'top 2' for 12 straight years, and now his son has been in for 8. Do some people even fucking think at all?

psst...hey- the president's daddy has been a spook for more than 40 years...
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