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Old 05-07-2008, 03:30 PM   #61 (permalink)
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You are exibiting text book 'back pedaling' and diversion of the point.

Why don't you question my sexuality too and then ask me why i haven't made my point. Come on lets be serious, you keep 'explaining' things as if you are the spokesman for all Veterans.

Guess what you aren't. So please Stop talking like you are in some kind of position of authority, this is a discussion not your opprotunity to start name calling like a little school girl.

The point of the thread is that John McCain's assistance to Verterans is non-existant it is sad that he has nothing to show for any support given to veterans other than bs politics and words.

Please stay on topic, John McCain's efforts for Veterans? I mean **** he wanted to stay in Vietnam, what a brilliant guy.
Fuck you for being so ignorant!
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HOW AM I BACKPEDALING?

I AM THE ONLY ONE BETWEEN THE TWO OF US THAT HAS EVEN SAID ANYTHING IN THIS CONVERSATION!









I have quoted the VA website concerning home loans, plus I've given first hand examples of what you claim don't exist.




How am I backpedaling?






YOU STUPID FUCK YOU.
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Old 05-07-2008, 03:32 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Let me guess, we're winning the Iraq war too
Why don't you put aside the BS and do some actual research.


There are Vietnamese generals that have admitted that they were pushed to their breaking point and were within days of issuing an all out surrender.
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Old 05-07-2008, 03:44 PM   #63 (permalink)

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Fuck you for being so ignorant!
Seriously, fuck your life and DNA strand.








HOW AM I BACKPEDALING?

I AM THE ONLY ONE BETWEEN THE TWO OF US THAT HAS EVEN SAID ANYTHING IN THIS CONVERSATION!









I have quoted the VA website concerning home loans, plus I've given first hand examples of what you claim don't exist.




How am I backpedaling?






YOU STUPID FUCK YOU.
You evers stop and think about when you post things like this? Not only are you not conveying your message but you make yourself look like a prick in doing so. Nobody is ever going to take you seriously or value your opinion when you begin a post with "Fuck You".

That being said, I don't think I can have a realistic discussion with a person like you because you lack the ability to have a logical conversation and the ability to converse. Talking to you is like talking to a wall, except the wall says "fuck you I'm right" on it.
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Old 05-07-2008, 03:49 PM   #64 (permalink)
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You evers stop and think about when you post things like this? Not only are you not conveying your message but you make yourself look like a prick in doing so. Nobody is ever going to take you seriously or value your opinion when you begin a post with "Fuck You".

That being said, I don't think I can have a realistic discussion with a person like you because you lack the ability to have a logical conversation and the ability to converse. Talking to you is like talking to a wall, except the wall says "fuck you I'm right" on it.
i think polynikes is expressing his frustration with you ignoring his credible sources and continuing to talk out of your ass.
i think polynikes may also dislike you because he believes you to be a butt pirate.
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Old 05-07-2008, 04:06 PM   #65 (permalink)
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I post this:

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What else needs to be done?
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I just don't understand how you can accept this fact? Its just that east to think yeah its ok 1/4 people on the streets is a veteran? What can be done are more programs for Veterans to pay their high morgages, assist them with jobs and transitioning them back to a civilian life style.

All I see in McCain's post are failed attempts at trying to impove such status - I personally think its sad. What should be done is a serious look at McCain's character, how does a person who walks around boasting their Veteran status have nothing to show for giving back to Veterans.

Now, I have already explained to you the situation with my friend who is on permanent disability. He gets Sergeant's pay for the rest of his life, the VA got him a job, put him through EMT school for free, gives him free medication, free psychiatry sessions, rehabilitation is free, on base privileges are granted so his groceries are cheap, and so on and so forth. So, your second and third "answer" to the problem are more than covered. And yeah, there are civilian transitional classes offered out the ass before you get out, and if you missed them then, you can retake them.

As to your comment about mortgages, I posted this:


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In order to help veterans in serious financial trouble, VA Regional Loan Centers have technicians available to conduct financial counseling. This counseling is designed to help you avoid foreclosure. If you want this assistance, call 1-800-827-1000 and ask for the number to reach a Loan Service Representative that can assist you.


And then you posted this, which is a definite "link/fact ignore" post that is typical around here:



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You are exibiting text book 'back pedaling' and diversion of the point.

Why don't you question my sexuality too and then ask me why i haven't made my point. Come on lets be serious, you keep 'explaining' things as if you are the spokesman for all Veterans.

Guess what you aren't. So please Stop talking like you are in some kind of position of authority, this is a discussion not your opprotunity to start name calling like a little school girl.

The point of the thread is that John McCain's assistance to Verterans is non-existant it is sad that he has nothing to show for any support given to veterans other than bs politics and words.

Please stay on topic, John McCain's efforts for Veterans? I mean **** he wanted to stay in Vietnam, what a brilliant guy.







What else do we need to discuss?



What about the opportunity to make and save money in the military?

I'll go ahead and do that now before you ask for it:


2008 Military Pay Chart

If you have no rent, no grocery bills, no medical / dental bills, this is a lot of money. And for the record, these are basic pays, and do not include any bonus pays or combat pay or sea pay or anything other than basic pay. AGAIN, THIS IS JUST BASIC PAY.


Thrift Savings Plan

You can check out the Thrift Savings Plan too. It's basically a 401k that you are offeredthrough the military, and its something everyone is told about time and time again.

TreasuryDirect

If long term retirement isn't your thing, you can ignore the TSP and go with short term savings bonds. There's the link for them. And don't even try to say that people don't know about this stuff because you're offered these the very first day you get to boot camp.

At any point during this conversation, you can begin to respond to any of this with facts if you've like.
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Old 05-07-2008, 04:14 PM   #66 (permalink)

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Do you have a source for this besides John Edwards saying it?
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Fuck you for being so ignorant!
Seriously, fuck your life and DNA strand.








HOW AM I BACKPEDALING?

I AM THE ONLY ONE BETWEEN THE TWO OF US THAT HAS EVEN SAID ANYTHING IN THIS CONVERSATION!









I have quoted the VA website concerning home loans, plus I've given first hand examples of what you claim don't exist.




How am I backpedaling?






YOU STUPID FUCK YOU.

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Old 05-07-2008, 07:42 PM   #68 (permalink)
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Easy there Keyboard Warrior...

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Probably wants to reclaim the spine he left there.
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Old 05-07-2008, 07:46 PM   #69 (permalink)
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Actually he's a politician who I think is trying to get things done. I don't agree with everything he's done or plans to do...but no one can fault him for being able to work with both conservatives and liberals. Sometimes that's what you need.

You can be a hard core liberal or a conservative...but at the end of day if you don't get shit done...then that can be disastrous too.

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He's liberal. Trying to pass off that he's conservative.
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Old 05-07-2008, 08:09 PM   #70 (permalink)

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Of all the legit concerns about McCain, this is fucking laughable.
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