[Nine]

Originally Posted by Polynikes

I'm an Iraq vet and I have people very close to me that have severe PTSD.
They have it so bad that they are now disabled.
The military takes great care of them too.
Money, benefits, treatment, help finding jobs, help securing spots in schools, etc.
There is no shortage of help out there.
...I swear, most of the people in here with the biggest opinions have NO FREAKING CLUE what they're talking about...
How in God's name is McCain at fault for not fixing the emotional shortcomings of these people?
Most homeless people are mentally handicapped and/or drug/alcohol abusers.
The military is not to blame, the politicians are not to blame, and the inherent role of a standing military is not to blame either.
The only people to blame are the homeless who turn down all of the available help that is offered to them.
You guys honestly think the military doesn't provide for these guys?
LOL
What a bunch of idiots...Seriously...You're all idiots...

Sadly, you are the idiot - its tragic that you realize that many vets are disabled but don't realize that company's offer great disability packages to their employees should they become disabled. Most veterans live on the edge of poverty by paying over 50% of their income for their homes, rent or mortgage.

The problem is not just because of drugs or PTSD. All of the information that I am giving you comes from the VA, (veteran affairs) - so dont' fucking bullshit me about this stuff, its coming from people older and more battle tested then yourself.

Why is McCain to blame? I'm not blaming him, I'm just sad he hasn't done more - in the past years the story is still the same - vets are 1/4 of the homeless population - McCain being a fellow veteran has nothing to show for this. If I were in a position like his it would be my #1 priority. A man of his age, his level of influence - its just sad. Its slated a good chunk of veterans returning from Iraq are soon to be homeless, maybe not in the first year but eventually. To me that is a sad statistic.

When you guys say these instances are self inflicted, 75% of the military are well educated people (above average) the numbers are just sad, the way we treat those people who are "protecting our freedom"

That is my point.

[Nine]

Dear Plynikes,
The VA give the stats on all of this - all this info comes from the VA.

I'll take their info before yours.

Thanks!

[Polynikes]

Originally Posted by Nine

Sadly, you are the idiot - its tragic that you realize that many vets are disabled but don't realize that company's offer great disability packages to their employees should they become disabled. Most veterans live on the edge of poverty by paying over 50% of their income for their homes, rent or mortgage.

The problem is not just because of drugs or PTSD. All of the information that I am giving you comes from the VA, (veteran affairs) - so dont' fucking bullshit me about this stuff, its coming from people older and more battle tested then yourself.

Why is McCain to blame? I'm not blaming him, I'm just sad he hasn't done more - in the past years the story is still the same - vets are 1/4 of the homeless population - McCain being a fellow veteran has nothing to show for this. If I were in a position like his it would be my #1 priority. A man of his age, his level of influence - its just sad. Its slated a good chuck of veterans returning from Iraq are soon to be homeless, maybe not in the first year but eventually. To me that is a sad statistic.

When you guys say these instances are self inflicted, 75% of the military are well educated people (above average) the numbers are just sad, the way we treat those people who are "protecting our freedom"

That is my point.

LOL

You just made a long post here, but you didn't say ANYTHING.

This is a typical post made in the WR.





What else does McCain need to do?

[Polynikes]

Originally Posted by Nine

Dear Plynikes,
The VA give the stats on all of this - all this info comes from the VA.

I'll take their info before yours.

Thanks!

What else needs to be done?

[Nine]

Originally Posted by Polynikes

What else needs to be done?

I just don't understand how you can accept this fact? Its just that east to think yeah its ok 1/4 people on the streets is a veteran? What can be done are more programs for Veterans to pay their high morgages, assist them with jobs and transitioning them back to a civilian life style.

All I see in McCain's post are failed attempts at trying to impove such status - I personally think its sad. What should be done is a serious look at McCain's character, how does a person who walks around boasting their Veteran status have nothing to show for giving back to Veterans.

[Polynikes]

Originally Posted by Nine

I just don't understand how you can accept this fact? Its just that east to think yeah its ok 1/4 people on the streets is a veteran? What can be done are more programs for Veterans to pay their high morgages, assist them with jobs and transitioning them back to a civilian life style.

All I see in McCain's post are failed attempts at trying to impove such status - I personally think its sad. What should be done is a serious look at McCain's character, how does a person who walks around boasting their Veteran status have nothing to show for giving back to Veterans.

You are uneducated, lack basic spelling ability, and pretty much suck at making points.


Let me ask you again:

WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE?




You say the vets need programs for paying higher mortgages, job assistance, and classes pertaining to the transition to civilian life?



LOL

I've already explained to you that the second and third situation are covered, but the mortgage assistance recommendation is flat out ridiculous and proves that you don't know shit.


You are aware that the VA offers huge deals on home loans right?


LOL

You didn't even know that did you?

[Rematch]

Originally Posted by stylesbjj

fact: McCain believes we should've stayed in Vietnam.

Fact: Despite the media, the U.S. was winning the Vietnam War.

[Polynikes]

In order to help veterans in serious financial trouble, VA Regional Loan Centers have technicians available to conduct financial counseling. This counseling is designed to help you avoid foreclosure. If you want this assistance, call 1-800-827-1000 and ask for the number to reach a Loan Service Representative that can assist you.





Uh oh
Uh oh
Something needs to be done

I just don't what it is though

[Polynikes]

Originally Posted by Nine

I just don't understand how you can accept this fact? Its just that east to think yeah its ok 1/4 people on the streets is a veteran? What can be done are more programs for Veterans to pay their high morgages, assist them with jobs and transitioning them back to a civilian life style.

All I see in McCain's post are failed attempts at trying to impove such status - I personally think its sad. What should be done is a serious look at McCain's character, how does a person who walks around boasting their Veteran status have nothing to show for giving back to Veterans.

Look, I know that your thought process (to which I will give the name "mental ebonics") prevents you from any form of information uptake...let's go ride bikes...

[rvcblkdrgn]

Originally Posted by demo3051

There are plenty of resources available for homeless vets. You can't make people accept assistance. Most homeless people, including vets, are homeless b/c of addiction or mental illnes. Unless they ask for help, there is nothing to do.

Are you quoting from the O'Reilly handbook or do you get his weekly emails? First off homeless vets are mentally ill because they were traumatized from a war that should have never taken place. Secondly since there was not enough proper care for these vets-this led them to become mentally ill, not vice-versa. And it is our job as a society to help these people, instead of being selfish or just defending an irrational point like Mr. O'Reilly.