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Old 05-06-2008, 03:47 PM   #11 (permalink)
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What do you mean by that?
He's liberal. Trying to pass off that he's conservative.
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Old 05-06-2008, 03:50 PM   #12 (permalink)

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fact: McCain believes we should've stayed in Vietnam.
...we should have. Is this up for debate?
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Old 05-06-2008, 04:28 PM   #13 (permalink)

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There are plenty of resources available for homeless vets. You can't make people accept assistance. Most homeless people, including vets, are homeless b/c of addiction or mental illnes. Unless they ask for help, there is nothing to do.
tell it to the current vets of the iraq war who have been shafted over and over, and unless your speaking as a vet of iraq or afghanistan, you have absolutely no idea the current state of benefits for vets of the iraq or afghani war
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Old 05-06-2008, 04:47 PM   #14 (permalink)

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tell it to the current vets of the iraq war who have been shafted over and over, and unless your speaking as a vet of iraq or afghanistan, you have absolutely no idea the current state of benefits for vets of the iraq or afghani war
Do you stop to read and think about things before you type???

I am talking about benefits and assistance for HOMELESS VETERANS. Are you saying that there are homeless veterans from Iraq and Afganistan that want and request assistance but do not get it? As much as you hate O'Reilly, he did a feature on this and had on VA official who stated that they had shelter for those veterans without homes, so long as they asked.

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"But to Jeff Bailey, a member of Cabrillo's advisory board, it's absurd to expect homeless vets to look to the government for help.

"These fellows are suspicious of their government. It's the government that got them into this mess in the first place.""
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What are you supposed to do to help people who refuse to request help???
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Old 05-06-2008, 04:53 PM   #15 (permalink)

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McCain and Kerry worked together for Vet issues in congress. Whatever they could not accomplish was not from a lack of trying.
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Old 05-06-2008, 04:56 PM   #16 (permalink)

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...we should have. Is this up for debate?
Im very interested in hearing how we would of won vietnam, because 3 million casualites of the vietanamese surely didnt discourage them to stop fighting

Vietnamese civilian dead: 2,000,000*
Cambodian civilian dead: ~700,000*
Laotian civilian dead: ~50,000*
about 1 million vietcong soldiers died

and anyone that doesnt believe americans committed war crimes, look no further than the my lai massacre (and those are the ones we know about)
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Do you stop to read and think about things before you type???

I am talking about benefits and assistance for HOMELESS VETERANS. Are you saying that there are homeless veterans from Iraq and Afganistan that want and request assistance but do not get it? As much as you hate O'Reilly, he did a feature on this and had on VA official who stated that they had shelter for those veterans without homes, so long as they asked.



O'Reilly's stance on homeless vets poses questions - Press-Telegram

What are you supposed to do to help people who refuse to request help???
apologies, Im guilty of misreading your quote, but it doesnt change the fact that the all around benefits are severly lacking for vets
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"Support the troops" matters most when its used for political gain.
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1/4 homeless people is a Veteran - how can you be in power for all these years and nothing to improve this.

I've heard this argument a lot (especially from Edwards), but have never heard if there is a credible source for this. Is there one?
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