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Old 05-09-2008, 11:05 AM   #111 (permalink)
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I love circular arguements.

See I think I made a mistake in taking the bait and falling for the switch on this one.

Lets start over.

Here is the statement, I'm not happy with the current status of Veterans especially their disproportional rate of homelessness, I'm also not happy McCain has not done more or has any 'progress' to show for his efforts.

I never said anything about McCain's heroic survival, (the article you linked).
So, let's forget all of the other horrible arguments you made, we'll just wipe the slate clean and start over?




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Here's how idiots work:

1. Someone writes up a bill
2. The bill concerns veteran's benefits
3. Some parts of the bill suck
4. Some parts of the bill are good
5. Somewhere in that bill says more money for vets
6. Other parts of that bill say less funding for combat operations (which pays for the "more money" part
7. The bill gets voted down by one party
8. That party is now bashed and called "Anti-American" and "Anti-Military"
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Old 05-09-2008, 12:25 PM   #112 (permalink)

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In fact, you attempted at painting a picture that shows that McCain is hated by Vietnamese POW's.
Nope, I never said that. What I said was that SOME Veterans don't feel as though McCain supports the Veteran cause.
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Old 05-09-2008, 12:31 PM   #113 (permalink)

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So, let's forget all of the other horrible arguments you made, we'll just wipe the slate clean and start over?




John McCain 2008 - John McCain for President


Here's how idiots work:

1. Someone writes up a bill
2. The bill concerns veteran's benefits
3. Some parts of the bill suck
4. Some parts of the bill are good
5. Somewhere in that bill says more money for vets
6. Other parts of that bill say less funding for combat operations (which pays for the "more money" part
7. The bill gets voted down by one party
8. That party is now bashed and called "Anti-American" and "Anti-Military"
Thank you.

Could you please tell me as a former Veteran, why is it that Veterans have continued to disproportionatly represent the homeless? Since they only represent 11% of the population yet they are 25% of the homeless population.
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Thank you.

Could you please tell me as a former Veteran, why is it that Veterans have continued to disproportionatly represent the homeless? Since they only represent 11% of the population yet they are 25% of the homeless population.
You don't have a college degree do you?

1. There is no such thing as a "former veteran."
2. Overview of Homelessness - Homeless Veterans
3. Homeless Veterans Home
4. Homeless Programs & Initiatives - Homeless Veterans
5. "Atlthough many homeless veterans served in combat in Vietnam and suffer from PTSD, at this time, epidemiologic studies do not suggest that there is a causal connection between military service, service in Vietnam, or exposure to combat and homelessness among veterans. Family background, access to support from family and friends, and various personal characteristics (rather than military service) seem to be the stronger indicators of risk of homelessness."

6. Some individuals join the military because they literally can't do anything for themself. I knew people like this, and the military took care of them. However, when you have someone who can't take care of himself, lives paycheck to paycheck, then decides to get out, what do you think is going to happen? You think he's going to threaten Donald Trump's business endeavors?

This is made worse when someone doesn't pay attention in any of the Personal Financial Management classes, doesn't do his MCI's, and doesn't do anything other than squeak by during his time on active duty.

The military can not hold everyone's hand, do their laundry, or wipe their ass for them.

There are so many programs and classes and continuing education opportunities that nobody should ever have a problem getting out and getting situated.

I already explained the Montgomery GI Bill to you, although I doubt you read it.

Like I said, I made so much money with the GI Bill and the Pell Grant that I ended up investing it in real estate.




You literally don't have a pot to piss in with regards to this conversation.
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"Atlthough many homeless veterans served in combat in Vietnam and suffer from PTSD, at this time, epidemiologic studies do not suggest that there is a causal connection between military service, service in Vietnam, or exposure to combat and homelessness among veterans. Family background, access to support from family and friends, and various personal characteristics (rather than military service) seem to be the stronger indicators of risk of homelessness."
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Advisory Committee on Homeless Veterans *

To provide advice to the Secretary of Veterans Affairs on benefits and services provided to homeless veterans by the Department of Veterans Affairs.




Committee Manager
Pete Dougherty

Phone
(202) 273-5764

Fax
(202) 273-9472

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IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ANY OF THIS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO EMAIL, OR BETTER YET CALL, MR. DOUGHERTY AND TAKE IT UP WITH HIM.



I MEAN, QUIT WASTING TIME HERE DOING NOTHING, AND ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT VIA THAT LINK AND PHONE NUMBER.
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GIVEN YOUR COLLEGE DEGREE AND AREA OF EXPERTISE, YOU SHOULD SERIOUSLY LOOK INTO THIS. YOU COULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE DUDE.



If you wish to be considered for an appointment on one of our committees, please send your resume to: Philip Riggin

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If you want more information about VA's advisory committees you may call Vivian Drake or Shirley Williams at (202) 273-4838, fax (202) 273-4879, or email va.advisory.cmte@va.gov .
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Nope, I never said that. What I said was that SOME Veterans don't feel as though McCain supports the Veteran cause.
Yeah and some people don't think Rocky Marciano was the best boxer of all time either, so who gives a shit what a very small minority thinks when the group doesn't hold the same opinion?
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You don't have a college degree do you?
I do, I just don't give 100% attention to posting. Sorry.

Thanks for posting, I hope that eventually the number of homeless people will decline and they will make big bucks from the GI bill like you did and start investing in houses...
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Yeah and some people don't think Rocky Marciano was the best boxer of all time either, so who gives a shit what a very small minority thinks when the group doesn't hold the same opinion?

I think the point is that we are all allowed to have our own opinions...
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