[combatverm]

Originally Posted by Kippy Winstead

BAHAHAHAHHAHA!!!!!!!

okay... where to start with this one...

first... they want a nuke... every country does... especially a country with 2 neighbors that are being occupied by the west... so we agree there...

but they have let the IAEA in... and they have said that there is no evidence of them working towards a nuke... our own cia says they stopped the program in 2002-2003... so they have actually done that...

do you think israel should allow inspectors? they don't even admit they have nukes...

also the shauh signed the NPT... he was an american puppet dictator... should the iranian people be held accountable for his decisions??? should the iraqi people be held accountable for the deals saddam agreed with???

and lastly... THEY didn't raise the price of oil LMAO....

i don't even know where to begin on how completely stupid a notion that is... a product traded globally is somehow controlled by 1 country in iran... lmao.... the market sets the price... not iran... you fucking idiot...

Oooh, zippy gets nasty. Thanks for the education and to be honest with you I had to
Google pillow biter but apparently you are well versed in this area maybe through time
Served in the pen or just your average hate for homosexuals. I’ll answer some of your questions starting with the last one and eventually move on after I engage in some heterosexual activities in case you are still concerned. One more thing, the underlying tone of you messages that insist on putting down someone’s IQ should they have a different opinion than you simply indicates you have an out of control Hubris and you are too literal.

Uncertainty in the market affects the oil market dramatically, but you know this im sure. Why couldn’t you see what I was saying, where is your open mind?? Here are some quotes that I quickly grabbed from the net. "Even if it’s all just talk, the problem for consumers is that this intensified speculation drives the markets.

“Traders on the floor look out into forward months, and when there’s a factor that will disrupt supplies, they will lock supplies a bit further out,” said David Pomfrey, the deputy director for energy and national security at the independent Center for Strategic and International Studies.
Securing supplies ahead of time keeps oil off the market, driving up prices.

Iran issues stark warning on oil price. "Any possible sanctions from the west could possibly, by disturbing Iran's political and economic situation, raise oil prices beyond levels the west expects," he told Iranian state radio. "When just a statement makes this much volatility in the market, can you imagine that if any action happens ... what would be the result in the oil market?" he said through a translator

Dude, smoke some cali weed and chill and thanks for the education.

[aderion22]

Originally Posted by J-I-GG-A

1 Israeli life = 10 Palestinian lives...that's why.

f*ck you... this is how .. in da ass.
because you are a *** .... that's why

[RuSSiaNThuG]

Originally Posted by Kippy Winstead

both sides should open their minds...

and bro you know its deeper than that... they don't view jews as subhuman so much as invaders...

and i can understand both sides...

do the people of israel have the right to live in peace? yes all people do... but where? do they deserve any land they can take militarily? do they deserve land they lobbied the UN for when the people living there didn't even have a say in whether or not the jewish state was created? was that fair? should we expect and understand anger from those who were wronged by it's creation? of course... and that's seeing both sides...

to me i can understand the arab point of view.... this is a total insult by the west... "they invaded our lands... occupied our countries... they even created a jewish state without any consideration as to how we felt..."

all before a single "terrorist" attack...

i mean to them... the UN was an entity that they had no say in... why should the UN, which is controlled by the west, be allowed make such a decision? is it fair? should we in the west not understand their anger and frustration? did america not break free from england based on some of the same issues... australia as well?

you are just too blindly supportive to israel to even consider how the arabs feel... you can't even come to terms with it man... and it's sad because it seems with many jews you really can't have an honest discussion about the impact israel has had on the people of the region... and the sincere honesty of whether or not the state should have been created there the way it was (notice i say the way it was created)...

i don't say this to be insulting in any way either... i have said before that many of the jews i've met in my life are incapable of having a real and honest discussion on israel's creation and the point of view of those who lost the homes their familesas had lived in for centuries as a result of it's creation (we americans for example don't have a problem discussing what we did to the native americans)... i think much of this is because of the haulo and the psychological impact on jews... i can understand that impact to a degree (not being jewish i don't think i could ever really understand completely)... it must impact your decisions... that at one point not 70 years ago your people were nearly exterminated... that is intense... i wonder if any of us could have a rational discussion on certain issues with that in mind...

but i have to ask is that a good reason for what has happed as a result of the creation of israel? is it a good reason for a group of people to not be open to a real and honest discussion on the topic...

i don't think so... and i don't think it helps the jewish people as a whole in the long term...

my people?

my people were targetted by the turks, my people were targetted by the nazis

that is besides the point.

the hate that is directed at the jews is very real throughout the arab world, israel or no israel.


israel is here to stay, once the arab world gets over itself we can have some discussion

[Diyako]

Originally Posted by Kippy Winstead

israel doesn't make stupid deals...

yes israel was a country founded on science and intelligence. never would they dare to do anything stupid like that.

[Gandhi]

you really can't have an honest discussion about the impact israel has had on the people of the region

I agree with some of what you said in that post, esp. with regards to the occ territories, but impact on the region?

Their impact is on small tiny slice of the region, the rest is BS politics. The rest of the region, ie those ME nations that; divided up much of Palestine among themselves and brutally suppress any from of political dissent, all while waving the anti US/anti Israeli/Pali flag in order to deal with their own fundies; are FOS.

I think understanding "both sides" means recognizing the fundamental hypocrisy of that region.

[PhatWah]

Originally Posted by Diyako

yes israel was a country founded on science and intelligence. never would they dare to do anything stupid like that.

where's that herbal aids cure you guys promised the world?

[Gandhi]

looks like muay moron got banned again

[geezerjitsu]

Originally Posted by bagamuffins

doesnt really seem like a good deal, does it?

It is rarely in Israel's interest to negotiate and make such deals but they have grown weak and will suffer for it.

[SickBoy38]

Lol man i see so many misinformed israelis supporters here..
Everybody knows 1 israeli = 10 palestinians
They both kill children., Dont try and make the palestinian being the bad dudes by employing kids to war.. israel kills palestinian kids too
Its a really sad situation.

[PhatWah]

Originally Posted by geezerjitsu

It is rarely in Israel's interest to negotiate and make such deals but they have grown weak and will suffer for it.

truth.