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Old 03-14-2006, 10:54 AM   #1 (permalink)
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"hired guns" to be used to police louisiana

Katrina was the first time we saw private security contractors used in the US. And still with now they plan to use them again to "control" the potential illegal activities to come from the housing situations. This seems so crazy in one point and seems to make sense on the over.
The fear is will who will the DynoCorp (alot like blackwater) "employees" answer to? How will the regular deputies feel about the new guys making considerabley more than they are making? Do you think this sets a precidence for PSC's to be used in other areas of America for other uses?
Read the article, its interesting.


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The Bush Admin isn't stupid. It's just a beautiful loophole around Posse Comitatus. He already asked Congress to abolish it.

An interesting study of history shows that governments become more oppressive by using precedent. Once the government does something once, there is nothing stopping them from doing it again.

They are looking for a reason to put soldiers on our streets. They need precedent.

They are already militarizing the police and using terms such as "domestic terrorists" to describe protestors.

The snowball is too big.

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Yeah, that is a scarr thought for sure!!
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The Bush Admin isn't stupid. It's just a beautiful loophole around Posse Comitatus. He already asked Congress to abolish it.

An interesting study of history shows that governments become more oppressive by using precedent. Once the government does something once, there is nothing stopping them from doing it again.

They are looking for a reason to put soldiers on our streets. They need precedent.

They are already militarizing the police and using terms such as "domestic terrorists" to describe protestors.

The snowball is too big.

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Seriously.

You should check out what they call the Miami Model. It was the Miami Dade police model to deal with the anti FTAA protests.

They had a joint task force of police from county, different cities (miami, Ft Lauderdale sheriff, S. Miami, ect), then had them all remove all external markings so that no officer could be identified. This is significant, because you can't sue for civil rights violations if you don't know which AGENCY TO SUE!.

The cops went out and busted skulls, but it was difficult to hold any responsible since the classified their deployment assignments. They claimed that it was "national security" related and no one could hold anyone accountable.

What is really interesting is that the Miami policie chief is now consulting with every major city explaining how to pull of the Miami model for surpressing protests.



Now to be fair, some segments of the protesters got out of line, but the response was not proportional at all.
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Seriously.

You should check out what they call the Miami Model. It was the Miami Dade police model to deal with the anti FTAA protests.

They had a joint task force of police from county, different cities (miami, Ft Lauderdale sheriff, S. Miami, ect), then had them all remove all external markings so that no officer could be identified. This is significant, because you can't sue for civil rights violations if you don't know which AGENCY TO SUE!.

The cops went out and busted skulls, but it was difficult to hold any responsible since the classified their deployment assignments. They claimed that it was "national security" related and no one could hold anyone accountable.

What is really interesting is that the Miami policie chief is now consulting with every major city explaining how to pull of the Miami model for surpressing protests.



Now to be fair, some segments of the protesters got out of line, but the response was not proportional at all.
that's absolutely crazy! I never heard of such a thing.
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that's absolutely crazy! I never heard of such a thing.
What's really crazy is when it went down it got NO media coverage. Well virtually none. It was a big riot too.
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What's really crazy is when it went down it got NO media coverage. Well virtually none. It was a big riot too.
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What's disturbs me most is the (alleged) media involvement in this.

THE MIAMI MODEL
Paramilitaries, Embedded Journalists and Illegal Protests.
Think This is Iraq? It's Your Country



By Jeremy Scahill

MIAMI, Nov. 24 - We were loading our video equipment into the trunk of our car when a fleet of bicycle cops sped up and formed a semi-circle around us. The lead cop was none other than Miami Police Chief John Timoney. The former Police Commissioner of Philadelphia Timoney has a reputation for brutality and hatred of protesters of any kind. He calls them punks," "knuckleheads" and a whole slew of expletives. He coordinated the brutal police response to the mass-protests at the Republican National Convention in Philadelphia in 2000. After a brief stint in the private sector, Timoney took the post of Miami police chief as part of Mayor Manny Diaz's efforts to "clean up the department."

We had watched him the night before on the local news in Miami praising his men for the restraint they had shown in the face of violent anarchists intent on destroying the city. In reality, the tens of thousands who gathered in Miami to protest the ministerial meetings of the Free Trade Area of the Americas summit were seeking to peacefully demonstrate against what they consider to be a deadly expansion of NAFTA and US-led policies of free trade. There were environmental groups, labor unions, indigenous activists from across the hemisphere, church groups, grassroots organizations, students and many others in the streets. What they encountered as they assembled outside the gates to the building housing the FTAA talks was nothing short of a police riot. It only took a few hours last Thursday before downtown Miami looked like a city under martial law.

On the news, Chief Timoney spoke in sober tones about the tear gas that demonstrators fired at his officers. No, that is not a typo. Timoney said the protesters were the ones launching the tear gas. He also said the demonstrators had hurled "missiles" at the police. "I got a lot of tear gas," Timoney said. "We all got gassed. They were loaded to the hilt. A lot of missiles, bottles, rocks, tear gas from the radicals."

Seeing Timoney up close and personal evokes this image of Mayor Daley at the '68 Democratic Convention ordering his men to shoot protesters on sight. He is that kind of guy.

Back at our car, Timoney hopped off his bike as a police cameraman recorded his every move. It all had the feel of being on an episode of COPS. He demanded the license and registration for the car. Our colleague Norm Stockwell of community radio station WORT in Madison, Wisconsin gave him his license. We informed him we were journalists. One of his men grabbed Norm's press pass, looking it over as though it was a fake. They looked at all of us with nasty snares before getting back on their bikes and preparing to continue on to further protect Miami. Timoney gave us this look that said, you got away this time but I'll be back. You could tell he was pissed off that we weren't anarchists (as far as he knew).

As Timoney was talking with his men, one of the guys on the bikes approached us with a notepad. "Can I have your names?" he asked.

I thought he was a police officer preparing a report. He had on a Miami police polo shirt, just like Timoney's. He had a Miami police bike helmet, just like Timoney's. He had a bike, just like Timoney's. In fact there was only one small detail that separated him from TimoneyÑa small badge around his neck identifying him as a reporter with the Miami Herald. He was embedded with Chief Timoney.*

That reporter was one of dozens who were embedded with the Miami forces (it's hard to call them police), deployed to protect the FTAA ministerial meetings from thousands of unarmed protesters. In another incident, we saw a Miami Herald photographer who had somehow gotten pushed onto the "protesters side" of a standoff with the police. He was behind a line of young kids who had locked arms to try and prevent the police from advancing and attacking the crowds outside of the Inter-Continental Hotel. He was shouting at the kids to move so he could get back to the safe side. The protesters ignored him and continued with their blockade.

The photographer grew angrier and angrier before he began hitting one of the young kids on the line. He punched him in the back of the head before other journalists grabbed him and calmed him down. His colleagues seemed shocked at the conduct. He was a big, big guy and was wearing a bulletproof vest and a police issued riot helmet, but I really think he was scared of the skinny, dreadlocked bandana clad protesters. He had this look of panic on his face, like he had been in a scuffle with the Viet Cong.

Watching the embedded journalists on Miami TV was quite entertaining. They spoke of venturing into Protesterland as though they were entering a secret al Qaeda headquarters in the mountains of Afghanistan. Interviews with protest leaders were sort of like the secret bin Laden tapes. There was something risque, even sexy about having the courage to venture over to the convergence space (the epicenter of protest organizing at the FTAA) and the Independent Media Center. Several reporters told of brushes they had with "the protesters." One reporter was quite shaken after a group of "anarchists" slashed her news van's tires and wrote the word "propaganda" across the side door. She feared for the life of her cameraman, she somberly told the anchor back in the studio. The anchor warned her to be careful out there.

So dangerous was the scene that the overwhelming majority of the images of the protests on TV were from helicopter shots, where very little could be seen except that there was a confrontation between police and "the protesters." This gave cover for Timoney and other officials to make their outrageous and false statements over and over.

Timoney spun his tales of "hard-core anarchists" rampaging through the streets of Miami; "outsiders coming to terrorize and vandalize our city." He painted a picture of friendly restrained police enduring constant attacks from rocks, paint, gas canisters, smoke bombs and fruit. "We are very proud of the police officers and their restraint. Lots of objects were thrown at the police officers," Timoney said. "If we didn't act when we did, it would have been much worse."

It was much worse.

Timoney's Paramilitaries

After last week, no one should call what Timoney runs in Miami a police force. It's a paramilitary group. Thousands of soldiers, dressed in khaki uniforms with full black body armor and gas masks, marching in unison through the streets, banging batons against their shields, chanting, "back... back... back." There were armored personnel carriers and helicopters.

The forces fired indiscriminately into crowds of unarmed protesters. Scores of people were hit with skin-piercing rubber bullets; thousands were gassed with an array of chemicals. On several occasions, police fired loud concussion grenades into the crowds. Police shocked people with electric tazers. Demonstrators were shot in the back as they retreated. One young guy's apparent crime was holding his fingers in a peace sign in front of the troops. They shot him multiple times, including once in the stomach at point blank range.

My colleagues and I spent several days in the streets, going from conflict to conflict. We saw no attempts by any protesters to attack a business or corporation. With the exception of some graffiti and an occasional garbage can set on fire, there was very little in the way of action not aimed directly at the site of the FTAA meetings. Even the Black Bloc kids, who generally have a rep for wanting to smash everything up, were incredibly restrained and focused.

There was no need for any demonstrator to hurl anything at the forces to spark police violence. It was clear from the jump that Timoney's men came prepared to crack heads. And they did that over and over. After receiving $8.5 million in federal funds from the $87 billion Iraq spending bill, Miami needed to have a major combat operation. It didnÕt matter if it was warranted.

Miami Mayor Manny Diaz called the police actions last week a model for homeland security. FTAA officials called it extraordinary. Several cities sent law enforcement observers to the protests to study what some are now referring to as the "Miami Model."

This model also included the embedding of undercover police with the protesters. At one point during a standoff with police, it appeared as though a group of protesters had gotten into a brawl amongst themselves. But as others moved in to break up the melee, two of the guys pulled out electric tazers and shocked protesters, before being liberated back behind police lines. These guys, clearly undercover agents, were dressed like any other protester. One had a sticker on his backpack that read: "FTAA No Way."

The IMC has since published pictures of people dressed like Black Bloc kids - ski masks and all - walking with uniformed police behind police lines.

The only pause in the heavy police violence in Miami came on Thursday afternoon when the major labor unions held their mass-rally and march. Led by AFL-CIO President John Sweeney, the march had a legal permit and was carefully coordinated with the police. Many of the union guys applauded the police as they marched past columns of the body-armored officers on break from gassing and shooting unarmed demonstrators.

But as soon as the unions and their permits began to disperse, the police seized the moment to escalate the violence against the other protesters. Fresh from their break during the union rally, Timoney's forces ordered the protesters to clear the area in front of the Inter-Continental. Some of the demonstrators shouted back that they had a right to peaceably protest the FTAA.

Boom. The concussion grenades started flying.

Hiss. The tear gas was sprayed.

Rat-a-tat-tat. The rubber bullets were fired.

Bam, bam. The batons were swinging.

The police methodically marched in a long column directly at the several hundred protesters who believed they had a right to protest, even without John Sweeney at their side. They fired indiscriminately at the crowds. One woman had part of her ear blown off. Another was shot in the forehead. I got shot twice, once in the back, another time in the leg. My colleague, John Hamilton from the Workers Independent News Service was shot in the neck by a pepper-spray pellet - a small ball that explodes into a white powder. After a few moments, John began complaining that his neck was burning from the powder. We doused him in water, but the burning continued. When I tried to ask the police what the powder was, they told me to "mind myself."

I've been in enough police riots to know that when the number of demonstrators dwindles and the sun sets, that's when the real violence begins. Eventually, the police forced the dissipating group of protesters into one of the poorest sections of Miami, surrounding them on 4 sides. We stood there in the streets with the eerie feeling of a high-noon showdown. Except there were hundreds of them with guns and dozens of us with cameras and banners. They fired gas and rubber bullets at us as they moved in. All of us realized we had nothing to do but run. We scattered down side streets and alleys, ducking as we fled. Eventually, we made it out.

After nearly an hour, we managed to find a taxi. We got in and the driver started choking from our pepper-sprayed clothes. She wanted us to get out of the taxi. We apologized for our smell and offered her more money just to get us to the hotel. She agreed.

The Real Crime: Failure to Embed

The next day, we went to a midday rally outside the Dade County Jail where more than 150 people were being held prisoner. It was a peaceful assembly of about 300 people. They sang "We all live in a failed democracy," to the tune of "We all live in a yellow submarine." They chanted, "Free the Prisoners, Not Free Trade," and "Take off your riot gear, there ain't no riot here."

Representatives of the protesters met with police officials at the scene. The activists said they would agree to remain in a parking lot across the street from the jail if the police would call off the swelling presence of the riot police. They reached an agreementÉor so the police said.

As the demonstration continued, the numbers of fully armed troops grew and grew. And they moved in from all four sides. They announced that people had 3 minutes to disperse from the "unlawful assembly." Even though the police violated their agreement, the protesters complied. A group of 5 activists led by Puppetista David Solnit informed the police they would not leave. The police said fine and began arresting them.

But that was not enough. The police then attacked the dispersing crowd, chasing about 30 people into a corner. They shoved them to the ground and beat them. They gassed them at close range. My colleague from Democracy Now!, Ana Nogueira, and I got separated in the mayhem. I was lucky to end up on the "safe" side of the street. Ana was in the melee. As she did her job - videotaping the action - Ana was wearing her press credentials in plain sight. As the police began handcuffing people, Ana told them she was a journalist. One of the officers said, "She's not with us, she's not with us," meaning that although Ana was clearly a journalist, she was not the friendly type. She was not embedded with the police and therefore had to be arrested.

In police custody, the authorities made Ana remove her clothes because they were soaked with pepper spray. The police forced her to strip naked in front of male officers. Despite calls from Democracy Now!, the ACLU, lawyers and others protesting Ana's arrest and detention, she was held in a cockroach-filled jail cell until 3:30 am. She was only released after I posted a $500 bond. Other independent journalists remained locked up for much longer and face serious charges, some of them felonies. In the end, Ana was charged with "failure to disperse."

The real crime seems to be "failure to embed."

In the times in which we live, this is what democracy looks like. Thousands of soldiers, calling themselves police, deployed in US cities to protect the power brokers from the masses. Posse Comitatus is just a Latin phrase. Vigilantes like John Timoney roam from city to city, organizing militias to hunt the dangerous radicals who threaten the good order. And damned be the journalist who dares to say it - or film it - like it is.

Jeremy Scahill is a producer and correspondent for the nationally syndicated radio and TV program Democracy Now! He can be reached at jeremy@democracynow.org. For more reports on the FTAA protests, go to: http://www.democracynow.org
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HAHA I was just about to post that

You can listen to the piece and see video there too.
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For almost 2 years, the Miami Police Department has desperately been trying to ensure that the 2003 FTAA police operations plan remains a secret, even from the city's own Civilian Investigative Panel which is charged with investigating the large scale police brutality that took place on November 20-21, 2003. MPD has finally revealed it's reasoning for the secrecy: releasing the plan could "jeopardize future operations nationwide" because "authorities THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY have adopted the plan". This is a stunning, yet frightening admission, as it confirms the deep suspicions of political activists who have personally witnessed the same repressive tactics travel from city to city, protest to protest. This also lends further support to the ominous statements made earlier by Miami Police Chief John Timoney, that the FTAA was "the first big event for Homeland Security...the first real realistic run-through to see how it would work."
Appeals court protects secrecy involving police strategy for Miami trade talks

By Ihosvani Rodriguez
Miami Bureau
Posted August 19 2005

A Florida appeals court ruled this week that the Miami Police Department's operations plan during the Free Trade of the Americas meetings in 2003 are not subject to public records laws.

The ruling was a blow to the city's Independent Civilian Investigative Panel, which sought the controversial plan to investigate allegations of police misconduct during the demonstrations.

Miami police officials refused to hand over the document on the grounds that it contained security information that could jeopardize future operations nationwide. Authorities throughout the country have since adopted the plan.

Last November, Miami-Dade Circuit Judge Michael Chavies ordered the city to hand over the document to the civilian panel. The city appealed his decision to the Third District Court of Appeal in July.

In a four-page opinion released this week, the three judges agreed with Miami police officials that their game plan was not limited to the FTAA meetings and reversed Chavies' order.

"The FTAA summit is long over. There is no longer the threat of violence surrounding that meeting," the judges wrote. "While it contains security plans from the past FTAA summit meeting, the plans are not unique to that event. It is clear that at least some of the procedures, general and specific, will continue to be used for future events."

Janet McAliley, the civilian panel's vice chairwoman, said Thursday she was disappointed by the ruling but said it will not stop the group from pursuing the complaints.

"We still have plenty of other evidence we can go on, like witness statements and other reports," she said. "We would have liked to have it in order to make out a complete report, but we will still come out with a report without it."

McAliley expects the report to be completed by the end of the year.

Police Chief John Timoney could not be reached for comment on Thursday but issued a statement.

"It is obvious that the Legislature never intended this to be part of the public domain. This is an important victory for all law enforcement agencies in Florida," the statement said. "To have found otherwise, would have made it easier for those with bad intent to endanger both the public and police officers."
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those tactics will just make protests more violent. that is obviously what they want though. It will be easier to disparriage violent protester as "radicals" and "wackos" than it will to actually say what the reason for their protest is.
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