[Sohei]

Originally Posted by Snives823

I pay taxes for the roads too but why for the people to live everyday.

You also pay for people to drive on roads to work for you, transport your products, those roads make you money dumb-ass.

how did yo manage to acquire a business again?

[Lubaolong]

Snives823 confuses me. He said he made it big despite not going to college, but then in another thread, he said he was working on a masters degree. How does that work? And he is working as a personal trainer at a gym? If you're a CEO making $450k a year, why would you work at a gym? And how would you find the time?

[Snives823]

Originally Posted by Lubaolong

Snives823 confuses me. He said he made it big despite not going to college, but then in another thread, he said he was working on a masters degree. How does that work? And he is working as a personal trainer at a gym? If you're a CEO making $450k a year, why would you work at a gym? And how would you find the time?

Where did I say I didn't go to college? I worked at a gym for a few months overseas in Manila for my buddy that is just old info. I didn't say anything about 450k a year either I'll do more than that in business this year.

[Sohei]

Originally Posted by Snives823

This is the part I hate. Because you go to college or start a business and earn more you should pay half or even more of your earnings in taxes to supplement adult 7-11 employees wasting their lives.

You are a business owner yet you denigrate the employees of a business, a 7-11. Dude you have no credibility. Why don't you just start a thread saying you think everyone should just kiss your ass 24/7?

Originally Posted by Snives823

I don't agree with raising taxes for anyone, and the middle class can't afford it I do understand that.

Ok, so the lower class cant afford it, the middle class cant afford it, but you don't want rich people to pay taxes either so who the fuck is gonna pay for all this military and defense you love so much?

Originally Posted by Snives823

People who amass wealth generally do it in stocks and not in cash.

So why is the capital-gains tax rate lower than the income tax rate?

Originally Posted by Snives823

Governments piss money away, just look at our military.

Youre right rich people NEVER piss away money on yachts and stupid shit like that.

Originally Posted by Snives823

FINANCIALLY speaking a private army would be much more cost effective than a state run army.

Perhaps youd like a castle to go with that?

Originally Posted by Snives823

So if my goal is to make millions a year but I just pay more as I go where is the added incentive. This will take incentive away. If reaching goals were easier people would set them higher and create more wealth that will be invested in something. No billionarres made their money by saving it in a bank account.

Because if you're truly making billions a year a progressive tax rate wont mean shit. You'll still be making more money and living a life that 99% of the country doesn't. But, since you're rich and have everything, you'll get bored and you'll start bitching about paying marginally higher tax rates to help kids get an education even though it keeps them off the streets and benefits everyone , even you.

[Lubaolong]

Originally Posted by Snives823

Where did I say I didn't go to college?

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Originally Posted by Snives823

i can't see any excuse for an american to not be able to afford health care for themselves unless they have a complete disability. there is affirmative action for minorities and mcdonalds for retards. find a job and pay it. don't stop foreign aid just give to the countries who need it not the ones we just like. i hate people who bitch about not having a chance in the states. fuck that dude. i grew up in a city i didn't go to college and i'm living just fine. in a third world country i still found a job with health care.

Then you say,

Originally Posted by Snives823

I'm studying for my master's in English and i work at a gym as a weight/wrestling trainer

So which is it?

[Sohei]

Originally Posted by Lubaolong

Snives823 confuses me. He said he made it big despite not going to college, but then in another thread, he said he was working on a masters degree. How does that work? And he is working as a personal trainer at a gym? If you're a CEO making $450k a year, why would you work at a gym? And how would you find the time?

Yeah I'm confused too since he said in another thread he lives in Manila(which is where alot of Americans go because the cost of living is so low)hes a strength coach in Manila, and that he got a job with his freidns because his "high-school credentials were so good".

[Lubaolong]

Originally Posted by Sohei

Yeah I'm confused too since he said in another thread he lives in Manila(which is where alot of Americans go because the cost of living is so low)hes a strength coach in Manila, and that he got a job with his freidns because his "high-school credentials were so good".

lmao. Nice.

[CJF]

[viruswitshoes]

Originally Posted by Snives823

I want to ask how do people justify saying that the rich have a higher moral obligation to help others in the country because they have more money? If we all live in a camp and we all get equal farm land, but I stay awake longer and work harder should I have to give my extra food to the people who just do enough to get by, or to the ones who do nothing at all. It is our personal responsibility to provide for our families, and why should Bill Gates be punished with higher taxes when he provided enough that his family will never have to worry/work again. Anyone here has an equal oppurtunity to start a business like he and I have, but so many people do not do it.

I own a business and I used to be in the Army and also the Ironworkers Union for 2 years afterwards. I was a solid worker in the union and I made descent money for it, but now I work 3 times as hard in my business and I deserve to make 5 times the money. My thought is that me working 3 times as hard earns 3 times the money, I earn another 1 time for providing 20-40 jobs steadily, and another 1 time because I took a huge risk starting a business with 2 kids and a wife overseas. I pay each of my employees enough to maintain an apartment and to get around off work okay, but if I had lower taxes and I didn't pay 15% to social programs on top of each check they would make more and I could pass on more of my savings. If you lowered taxes I could raise my minimum and maximum wages easily.

Why do any of you deserve my money? Give me one good reason I have to pay more taxes than any of you. Why do you disagree with a flat tax to be fair and balanced? A flat tax to pay for Military, Police, Fireman, and Infrastructure is okay with me, but taxes to pay for Welfare, Universal anything, and other socialist programs are totally unfair and unbalanced.

you say this like rich people and poor people went to the same schools, had the same parents, and after college, started off in the same foot right after college.

basically, it takes money to make money. some people, of all races, need programs to get them on the right foot. i'm not talking about state welfare. i'm talking about scholarships, work training programs, community programs, etc. You have to realize that in the poorest communities, the only businesses around are liquor stores and mcdonalds. now how is a community supposed to grow and develop from that? where are kids going to hang out without being tempted by gangs and drugs? there needs to be programs that help those communities grow and those communities need money. So therefore, that money needs to come from taxes.

And it takes money to make money. Some rich people (dare i say most) had access to money in some way shape or form so they could gain the necessary tools to succeed in life. Those that were successful in crossing the class lines were extremely hardworking and had extraordinary drive and work ethic. Some were even just lucky. Point being is that if you're fortunate enough to be wealthy, maybe some of that wealth should be invested in other communities so the whole country can be strong.

i mean, you bitch about crime, and you bitch about drugs, well it ain't going to change unless the access to the tools necessary to succeed is as equal to all as possible. so unless you don't mind the ills of society, then you need to pay the price and invest in a better one.

besides, what rich people don't realize is that business would thrive if all classes had money to spend. but they're short sighted and don't see it as a long term investment.

[CJF]

College doesn't guarantee big money.

A lot of top scholars are professors who make around 80-100K a year (after a few years on the job). Considering some are making advances in engineering, biology, chemistry etc. So there is no guarantee that college = rich.