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11-07-2009, 05:12 PM
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"He is a doctor and loves the U.S."
U.S. Army gunman's act "impossible": grandfather - Yahoo! Canada News
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AL-BIREH, West Bank (Reuters) - The grandfather of a U.S. Army psychiatrist accused of shooting dead 13 people and wounding 30 others at a base in Texas said on Saturday he found it impossible to believe his grandson had committed the act.
"He is a doctor and loves the U.S." Ismail Mustafa Hamad told Reuters in an interview at his home in the Palestinian town of al-Bireh. "America made him what he is."
U.S.-born Major Nidal Malik Hasan, 39, a Muslim and the son of immigrant parents, was shot during the attack and is being held at a hospital in San Antonio, Texas.
"Whether he became angry or something else, I don't know... What I do know is that it is impossible that he would do something like that," Hamad, 88, said.
Hasan, who had spent years counseling wounded soldiers, many of whom had lost limbs fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan, last visited him in the occupied West Bank some 10 years ago. Hamad said he had since visited his grandson in the United States.
Hamad appeared to rule out a political motive.
"He used to come to my house, to stay with me and entertain me. He never took an interest in politics and he didn't even like watching television," Hamad said.
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Colonel John Rossi, a spokesman at the Fort Hood army base, the biggest military facility in the world, said Hasan was unconscious but in stable condition.
The gunman, with two guns including a semi-automatic weapon, opened fire apparently without warning at Fort Hood base, where troops were getting medical checkups before leaving for foreign deployments.
Hasan was transferred to Fort Hood in April and was to have been deployed to Afghanistan, where the U.S. military is fighting Taliban and al Qaeda.
Hasan's cousin, Nader Hasan, said in interviews that he had agitated not to be sent overseas. "We've known over the last five years that was probably his worst nightmare," he said.
Nader Hasan also said his cousin had complained, as a Muslim, of harassment by fellow soldiers.
Hasan yelled "Allahu Akbar" -- Arabic for "God is Greatest" -- just before the shooting, Chuck Medley, Fort Hood's director of Emergency Services, told Reuters.
Another cousin, Mohammed Hasan from al-Bireh, said the shooting may have been motivated by what he said was the U.S. Army's refusal to allow him to leave the armed forces.
"About a week before the incident, he hired a lawyer in order to leave the army, get married and live his life. But they rejected his request, and asked him to go to Afghanistan.
"This was the biggest shock for him. So there is another reason why he did what he did, not just because of the harassment of the soldiers, there is another reason," Mohammed Hasan said.
(Reporting by Ramallah bureau, Writing by Ori Lewis; Editing by Ralph Boulton)
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-this was not some intricate terrorism plot
-he wasn't part of a home-grown terror cell
-because he was a Muslim, he did not want to be deployed in Afghanistan
-he wanted to settle down, get married and live his life, but was refused the privilege to do so
-he spent years treating injured US soldiers, that isn't something most of you "patriots" can say for yourself
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11-07-2009, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BinBaaz
-this was not some intricate terrorism plot
-he wasn't part of a home-grown terror cell
-because he was a Muslim, he did not want to be deployed in Afghanistan
-he wanted to settle down, get married and live his life, but was refused the privilege to do so
-he spent years treating injured US soldiers, that isn't something most of you "patriots" can say for yourself
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Aside from going postal, I'm sure he was a great guy.
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11-07-2009, 05:21 PM
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Yeah he really had love for his fellow countrymen =\ and I can't stand the fact that this piece of shit is here in the same town as me.
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11-07-2009, 05:22 PM
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Glad you posted this. It's impossible to say that his being Muslim didn't contribute to his actions, but it's plausible that he was just nuts in the head and was driven over the edge by circumstance.
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11-07-2009, 05:26 PM
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So let me get this straight. He voluntarily joins the US Army, lives an officer's cushy lifestyle, gets a great education paid for by tax dollars........ and when he's told to step up and pay some back by being a man and a soldier i.e. deploy which is exactly WTF a soldier does when he's told to, he responds by throwing a tantrum and killing/wounding over 40 REAL soldiers who were set to deploy without hesitation, many of them on their 2nd and 3rd tours.
So he wanted something for nothing by milking the system for everything he could (which is what a lot of people sign up for, but they deploy when and where they're told), and when he couldn't get it he decides to kill as many of his fellow brothers in arms as he could.
Fuck him with a k-bar.
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11-07-2009, 05:35 PM
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I guess the guy didn't fully understand the requirements of JOINING the service and when he found out he went ape shit and you want us to have sympathy for this man? Fuck him and everyone who praised the shootings or tries to justify it in some way, lets round them up and drop them off inside the Texas Military town and see how big their balls are.
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11-07-2009, 06:21 PM
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Brown Belt
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Virginia
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Originally Posted by BinBaaz
U.S. Army gunman's act "impossible": grandfather - Yahoo! Canada News
-because he was a Muslim, he did not want to be deployed in Afghanistan
-he wanted to settle down, get married and live his life, but was refused the privilege to do so
-he spent years treating injured US soldiers, that isn't something most of you "patriots" can say for yourself
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Umm, he enlisted in the military. That should be a clue you may get deployed.
He was refused? Again, he joined the military and took their money to get his education. Many service men are married, have families, and live their lives while fulfilling their obligation to the military.
I can't tell you what he had done for years, but it's my understanding that he just recently finished his schooling. Btw, isn't he a shrink? It's not like he's been saving lives or something. I'd say most patriots have spoken to veterans so yea, they've probably done as much.
You're making this out like it's the military's fault he killed those people. You should be ashamed.
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11-07-2009, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by CrankJohnson
So let me get this straight. He voluntarily joins the US Army, lives an officer's cushy lifestyle, gets a great education paid for by tax dollars........ and when he's told to step up and pay some back by being a man and a soldier i.e. deploy which is exactly WTF a soldier does when he's told to, he responds by throwing a tantrum and killing/wounding over 40 REAL soldiers who were set to deploy without hesitation, many of them on their 2nd and 3rd tours.
So he wanted something for nothing by milking the system for everything he could (which is what a lot of people sign up for, but they deploy when and where they're told), and when he couldn't get it he decides to kill as many of his fellow brothers in arms as he could.
Fuck him with a k-bar.
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yeah he actually sounds uniquely American
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11-07-2009, 07:58 PM
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Brown Belt
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BinBaaz
U.S. Army gunman's act "impossible": grandfather - Yahoo! Canada News
-this was not some intricate terrorism plot
-he wasn't part of a home-grown terror cell
-because he was a Muslim, he did not want to be deployed in Afghanistan
-he wanted to settle down, get married and live his life, but was refused the privilege to do so
-he spent years treating injured US soldiers, that isn't something most of you "patriots" can say for yourself
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He was in the army and didnt want to be deployed? Boo fucking hoo, no excuse to go on a run of the mill islamic shooting tantrum. Fuck off.
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11-07-2009, 07:59 PM
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Orange Belt
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Originally Posted by BinBaaz
-he wanted to settle down, get married and live his life, but was refused the privilege to do so
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So, because his life/plans may be on hold for a while, he decides to selfishly end/ruin the lives of many others?
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