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11-04-2009, 11:52 PM
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Silver Belt
Join Date: May 2004
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Originally Posted by BP3
Your whole argument fails due to the fact that getting married is not a right...civil or otherwise.
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Lol, every heard of the equal protection clause?
The Equal Protection Clause, part of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, provides that "no state shall ... deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws".
The Equal Protection Clause can be seen as an attempt to secure the promise of the United States' professed commitment to the proposition that "all men are created equal"[2] by empowering the judiciary to enforce that principle against the states.
You argument is a miserable failure, just like you most likely are.
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11-04-2009, 11:54 PM
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#142 (permalink)
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Silver Belt
Join Date: May 2004
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Originally Posted by MicroBrew
Civil rights / liberties and human rights should trump the will of the majority otherwise the majority will pass laws that infringes on aforementioned rights of the minority.
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Exactly, see DC vs Heller.
And yes gay marriage bans are a violation of the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment.
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11-05-2009, 12:29 AM
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#143 (permalink)
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Purple Belt
Join Date: Jul 2007
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Originally Posted by livingdeadmoose
Wow, you must know nothing of phsycology if you say you choose wether or not to be gay. And for the most part, people do not choose their sexual fetishes. It's just things they are atracted to.
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Exactly, thats why I don't blame the 40 year old who slept with his 13 year old niece...I mean its not like he could choose his sexual fetishes or anything, it's just what he's attracted to.
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11-05-2009, 12:30 AM
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#144 (permalink)
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Purple Belt
Join Date: Jul 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by USAMMAFAN
Lol, every heard of the equal protection clause?
The Equal Protection Clause, part of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, provides that "no state shall ... deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws".
The Equal Protection Clause can be seen as an attempt to secure the promise of the United States' professed commitment to the proposition that "all men are created equal"[2] by empowering the judiciary to enforce that principle against the states.
You argument is a miserable failure, just like you most likely are.
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I don't know of any place in America where a gay person can't get married like everyone else.
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11-05-2009, 12:35 AM
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#145 (permalink)
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Purple Belt
Join Date: Jul 2007
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Originally Posted by japanese steel
Seriously, give me an honest answer why people oppose this so much.
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They are two different things....completely different. Why don't we just start calling white people black?
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11-05-2009, 12:39 AM
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#146 (permalink)
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Purple Belt
Join Date: Jul 2008
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Originally Posted by InternetHero
I don't think this States rights issue has anything to do with eating homosexuals.
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lulz.
Nicely done.
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11-05-2009, 01:04 AM
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#147 (permalink)
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Gold Belt
Join Date: Jan 2006
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Originally Posted by USAMMAFAN
Exactly, see DC vs Heller.
And yes gay marriage bans are a violation of the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment.
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I'm for gay marriage but do not feel being a homosexual is a strictly protected class on the issue of marriage.
It has State's Rights written all over it.
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11-05-2009, 01:11 AM
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#148 (permalink)
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WWE > UFC
Join Date: Oct 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by USAMMAFAN
Lol, every heard of the equal protection clause?
The Equal Protection Clause, part of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, provides that "no state shall ... deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws".
The Equal Protection Clause can be seen as an attempt to secure the promise of the United States' professed commitment to the proposition that "all men are created equal"[2] by empowering the judiciary to enforce that principle against the states.
You argument is a miserable failure, just like you most likely are.
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they do have equal protection. They can marry a female if they choose, and I still cant marry another guy. Essentially equal.
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11-05-2009, 01:12 AM
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#149 (permalink)
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Silver Belt
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 12,238
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Originally Posted by InternetHero
I'm for gay marriage but do not feel being a homosexual is a strictly protected class on the issue of marriage.
It has State's Rights written all over it.
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ur right.
lets just go back to jim crow, you know, "states rights" to be a bigoted society.
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11-05-2009, 01:13 AM
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#150 (permalink)
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Silver Belt
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Originally Posted by chardog
they do have equal protection. They can marry a female if they choose, and I still cant marry another guy. Essentially equal.
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exactly, lets just reinstitute bans on inter racial marriage too.
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