[kingstu]

Fred got hit HARD with the abortion lobbying issue, the Nixon issue and the “hot wife" issue. The left wing media has been slinging all kinds of shit on him (the L.A. Times is running about 3 or 4 negative stories a week about him) but the right wing blogs and talk radio have done an excellent job making sure none of it sticks. Since the left wing blogs are like preaching to the choir, Fred won’t lose any support from them.

If Hillary keeps doing such a good job managing her negatives I think I may have to rethink my choice for the winner. Hillary has done an excellent job deflecting all negatives about her stance on the Iraq war. She voted for it and then refused to apologize yet she maintains a substantial lead over her rivals. The best thing about Hillary’s negatives is they are all old news and they have all hit the press years ago. No media outlet can “break” any new stories. Vince Foster, Whitewater, Bill the cheater, shit all that stuff has been hashed and rehashed until the cows come home. IMO the lead is too big to overcome at this point.

Rudy simply doesn’t have the juice to get the nomination, although he is a really strong candidate nationally because of all the swing voters he can get with his stance on abortion. Conservative street cred is what matters in the primaries and Rudy simply doesn’t have it. Fred doesn’t really have the greatest conservative credentials either but they are better than everyone else at this point.

What makes Fred such a strong candidate for the primary is the fact that nobody else can touch his stance on abortion (even if he did lobby) because they all have worse credentials than he does (Romney flip flopped, Rudy has openly supported the right to choose, McCain…well he’s done anyway). Nobody can touch him on the Jesus vote either (most Christians don't even consider Mormons to be Christian).

Here are my picks:

Hillary vs. Fred – 60%
Hillary vs. Rudy – 40%

Fred Victory – 50%
Hillary Victory – 40%
Rudy Victory – 10%

[USAMMAFAN]

i think you are on the fred thompson bandwagon

i cant stand him, to me he is just an extention of Bush's policies, but I dislike Hillary even more

i will most likely be voting libertarian this year

[Libero cane]

Has Fred even announced officially that he is in fact running?

[USAMMAFAN]

to me Thompson is another "country club" republican, just like bush is

[kingstu]

Originally Posted by USAMMAFAN

i think you are on the fred thompson bandwagon

I am not really on the bandwagon in the sense that I hope he wins, but I think he will win. If he wins I hope to look like a visionary.

Originally Posted by USAMMAFAN

i cant stand him, to me he is just an extention of Bush's policies, but I dislike Hillary even more

That’s one of the main reasons I think he will win. People hate Hillary more than they like Fred. It’s a bit sad that our choices are between two people we hate the least but IMO it’s been that way for some time.

Originally Posted by USAMMAFAN

i will most likely be voting libertarian this year

I made a vow to vote straight down party lines two years ago no matter who the candidate is. I registered Libertarian two years ago and voted that way ever since. I did vote for a Republican last year for Lt Governor (Tom McClintock) but he lost anyway.

The worst thing about the Libertarian party is a total lack of organization. In the past two years I have never received anything from them, not even a request for money. When I was a Republican, Democrat and even a Greenie I got something in the mail but nothing from the Libertarians.

[kingstu]

Originally Posted by Libero cane

Has Fred even announced officially that he is in fact running?

He’s been unofficially official for quite some time (his candidacy is a foregone conclusion at this point). He made an appearance at the Sean Hannity Freedom concert a few days ago. Hannity is similar to Rush in the amount of people who listen to him on the radio and watch his TV show. It carries a considerable amount of weight if he endorses Thompson.

Originally Posted by USAMMAFAN

to me Thompson is another "country club" republican, just like bush is

When was the last President we had who wasn’t a country club politician (Republican or Democrat)? Wasn’t it Abe Lincoln?

[TheSweetScience]

Originally Posted by kingstu

The worst thing about the Libertarian party is a total lack of organization.

that, and they focus too much of their energies on the "pot & prostitution" argument. they're not gonna sway too many of the actual voting block like that.

I'd consider myself to have libertarian (with a little 'L') tendencies.

[USAMMAFAN]

Originally Posted by kingstu

When was the last President we had who wasn’t a country club politician (Republican or Democrat)? Wasn’t it Abe Lincoln?

Paul isnt a country club type, you can tell it just by the way he acts, but he has not been president (yet )

Clinton wasnt really a country club type, the dude used to jog to McDonalds fill up on grease.

Clinton was more "bubba" then country club.

For crying out loud even his presidential library looks like a trailer

[kingstu]

Originally Posted by TheSweetScience

that, and they focus too much of their energies on the "pot & prostitution" argument. they're not gonna sway too many of the actual voting block like that.

I'd consider myself to have libertarian (with a little 'L') tendencies.

David Duke is a prime example of what can be accomplished with a nice suit and a good speaking voice. The dude was a Klansman for God’s sake and he almost became a governor.

If the Libertarians would focus on the individual liberty aspect of the party platform and less on the “drugs, prostitution and taxation is illegal” platform, I think the party could do great things.

[kingstu]

Originally Posted by USAMMAFAN

For crying out loud even his presidential library looks like a trailer

It really does.