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Old 07-13-2007, 03:15 PM   #1 (permalink)

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Florida man owes $10,000 for child who's not his

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/07/11/pat...ses/index.html

FORT LAUDERDALE, Florida (CNN) -- Francisco Rodriguez owes more than $10,000 in back child support payments in a paternity case involving a 15-year-old girl who, according to DNA results and the girl's mother, is not his daughter.

Rodriguez, who is married with two daughters and a son from his wife's previous marriage, is fighting for leniency. "It's not right. I'm not the father, " he said at a recent court hearing.

He says he knew nothing about the other girl until paperwork showed up about four years ago saying he was the father.

He now has DNA results that show the 15-year-old girl wasn't fathered by him. He even has an affidavit from the girl's mother -- a former girlfriend from 1990 -- saying he's "not the father" and asking that Rodriguez no longer be required to pay child support.

Yet the state of Florida is continuing to push him to pay $305 a month to support the girl, as well as the more than $10,000 already owed. He spent a night in jail because of his delinquent payments.


Why is he in such a bind?

He missed the deadline to legally contest paternity. That's because, he says, the paperwork didn't reach him until after the deadline had passed. Video Watch Rodriguez plead in court for a break »

"It's like you're drowning every day," says Rodriguez, a massage therapist.

Rodriguez's case highlights the legal dilemma states face over how to handle paternity cases. More than a third of children born in the United States are born to unmarried parents, according to the National Center for Health Statistics.

But paternity laws vary from state to state, according to the Center for Law and Social Policy (CLASP), a nonprofit organization that works to improve the lives of low-income families.

Some states have detailed laws to challenge paternity within deadlines, while others offer little guidance. In most cases, men have 60 days to challenge paternity, according to CLASP.

After that, it can be "challenged only on the basis of fraud, duress or material mistake of fact," CLASP said last year in an update to a report on paternity law.

"There are no perfect answers," says Susan Paikin of the Center for Support of Families in Delaware. "Deadlines are imposed so that when families are broken -- the legal process is handled quickly."

She says state legislatures and courts struggle with paternity cases, trying to strike the proper balance between children's rights and adults' rights, always keeping in mind any potential harm to the child.

"This is a struggle. It's not something easy for courts or legislatures," she says.

Paikin says it's especially tricky in cases where a father has raised a child thinking it was his, only to learn years later the child had a different father.

"Most men who have a relationship with their child don't think of their child in terms of DNA," she said. "The real issue in most of these cases is anger and money."

Tampa Police officer Michael Anderson understands that sentiment. He paid child support for more than 12 years -- a total outlay he says amounted to more than $80,000. But a DNA test after he and his wife divorced showed the daughter he thought was his was somebody else's.

He then separated himself and his feelings from the child.

"I stopped having a relationship with the girl right from the beginning, when I found out," he said. "It was hard, but I had to do it."

A Tampa court earlier this year disestablished him as father and relieved him of his future child support payments. But by law, he is unable to get back the $80,000 he already paid.

Carnell Smith, who founded a group called U.S. Citizens Against Paternity Fraud, wants mandatory DNA tests when a child is born to avoid legal wrangling and anguish.

"Unfortunately, today it's not a crime for someone to lie about which man is the father," Smith said. "The mother doesn't have to return the money and rarely, if ever, is she prosecuted for perjury, for fraud."

Rodriguez's odyssey began in 1990, when he says at age 16 he had a four- to five-month relationship with a woman CNN is not identifying. He says when the relationship ended, he did not hear from her again until child support papers arrived at his home in 2003.

"My wife and I both had a confused look, and we're wondering, 'Where is the DNA test?' " he says.

But it was long past Florida's deadline to contest paternity. A court had already named him the father three years before when he did not respond to notices to appear, notices he says he never received because he had moved a lot.

He was now on the hook for monthly child support, as well as $10,623 in back child support.

He eventually paid for DNA testing. The test showed he was not the father.

A judge has now ordered a court-sanctioned DNA test for Rodriguez and the 15-year-old girl. Rodriguez has taken that test; the girl and her mother did not show up for their appointment to submit to DNA testing and it's unclear if the girl has complied.

CNN has repeatedly tried to contact the mother, but has been unable to reach her.

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How do you prevent this other than mandatory dna tests? Should fathers be able to sue for their money back? Should mother pay back or father sue birth father?
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Old 07-13-2007, 03:17 PM   #2 (permalink)

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i saw this in the morning on cnn. the dude was in tears, made me want to cry too. what a fucked up situation.
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Old 07-13-2007, 03:30 PM   #3 (permalink)

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Fucking bullshit dude, not surprised it's here in Florida though.

I don't know if this has been reversed or not, but I remember about ten years back if a woman were to claim that you're the father of her child, the burden of proof is on you to show that you aren't. Pretty fucked up way of doing things.
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Old 07-13-2007, 04:14 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Our laws are completely fucked up...

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Old 07-13-2007, 04:32 PM   #5 (permalink)

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Poor guy, I hope someone steps up and funds a nice war chest for him to fight this. If it were me I'd probably spend more money in legal fees to make sure the mother didn't see a dime of my money. its the principle of the situation, I wouldn't want to pay for someone elses child just because the woman I was with turned out to be a whore.
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Old 07-13-2007, 05:00 PM   #6 (permalink)
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The mother reportedly has said that he should not pay child support but the government is forcing him to pay her...
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Old 07-13-2007, 05:13 PM   #7 (permalink)
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That is insane.
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Old 07-13-2007, 06:58 PM   #8 (permalink)
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yeah, of course that's utterly ridiculous...


but

does anyone else get the distinct feeling at times that Chardog is a dead beat dad?
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He could get another trial, and have DNA evidence to get the heat off him
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