[HFFH]

Jesus how many more immigrints can the UK handle, this is going way too far


Britain faces being swamped by a wave of new migrants after EU chiefs announced yesterday they want to let in an extra 20 million workers from Asia and Africa.

Skilled migrants would be granted special 'blue cards' giving them the right to settle in member states, including Britain - if the Government agrees.

Britain has an 'opt-in' to ideas from Brussels it supports and is not bound by EU policy on immigration and asylum.

But a blue card - similar to the green cards issued by the US - could circumvent any opt-out by Britain.

The card would entitle skilled migrants to work in a member state for two years and then move to a second EU country after two or three years.

The workers could apply to stay permanently after five consecutive years in any EU state.

Opponents said that even if Britain opts out of the Commission's proposal, it will not stop many of the migrants coming here eventually.

Once they gain citizenship of another EU country they are entitled to free movement throughout the 27 member states.

Home affairs commissioner Franco Frattini said an influx of migrants was needed to plug skills gaps in the EU economy caused by a declining, ageing population.

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Immigration trouble: The EU wants the UK to take more immigrants - despite the recent Eastern European influx

And he called on member states to stop viewing immigration as a threat and erecting barriers to arrivals. The reforms could more than double the EU's foreign-born population by 2030.

The resident population of non-EU citizens in EU countries was about 18.5million last year - almost 4 per cent of the total population.

The Tories opposed the move last night. Shadow Home Secretary, David Davis, said: "The fact that under these proposals anyone who has lived for five years anywhere in the EU would be allowed to stay permanently makes a mockery of any Government claim they have the option of opting in to this.

"Since this would be likely to be in addition to already large-scale immigration, the stress placed on housing, public services and community relations in the UK would be enormous.

"We would introduce an explicit annual limit on the numbers of non-EU migrants who can come to the UK which would be set by Parliament.

"It is vital that the Government retains complete control over who is allowed to come to the UK and should not allow the EU to create loopholes or back doors that would make a mockery of a sensible wellbalanced immigration system."

Sir Andrew Green, chairman of the campaign group Migrationwatch UK, said: "This is more of the usual Euro-babble. One size does not fit all. In the UK, 83 per cent of our population growth is down to immigration.

"We need more immigration like a hole in the head."

Mr Frattini told a conference in Lisbon, Portugal, yesterday: "We have to look at immigration as an enrichment and as a inescapable phenomenon of today's world, not as a threat.

"We should take more account of what statistics tell us.

"Eighty-five per cent of unskilled labour goes to the EU and only 5 per cent to the USA, whereas 55 per cent of skilled labour goes to the USA and only 5 per cent to the EU. We have to reverse these figures with a new vision."

Germany has already rejected the idea. Its economy minister, Michael Glos, said it could not accept an influx of foreign job seekers just because it had a temporary skilled labour shortage.

A spokesman for the Home Office said last night: "The European Commission has not yet issued any proposals for a blue card scheme but we would consider any such proposals carefully.

"The UK has the right to opt in to EU measures on immigration and we would only decide to do this if the proposals were consistent with our national approach to managed migration.

"The Government is committed to controlling migration and boosting Britain's economy by bringing in the right skills from around the world.

"We have already established a Highly Skilled Migrants programme that prioritises entry into the UK for those with the right skills.

"We are also managing numbers in the national interest by moving into a tough Australian-style points based migration system for those seeking to work in the UK who come from outside the European Economic Area." http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...0&in_a_source=

[Maximus]

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[Zankou]

Actually it would be an excellent idea if it is managed right. That EU official is exactly correct: The biggest problem with EU immigration is that the EU imports primarily unskilled and uneducated immigrants, many of whom are hostile to the EU. That's insanity. I have long been amazed by the EU's willingness to let in the worst possible kinds of immigrants --- lazy, unskilled, and resentful --- rather than trying to select out only the most economically productive and least hostile immigrants. It's suicidal idiocy for a political entity not to apply selective policies regarding who can come in and become a citizen.

The US has a mix -- we have unskilled cheap labor pouring over the border, but we also bring in tons of skilled Asian talent that has hugely benefitted our nation. And even the unskilled immigrants that we get tend to be very hard working and non-hostile. If you take Muslim immigrants, for example, the US gets the great majority of professionals and elites, while the EU gets refugees and welfare seekers. Thus it is a weird fact of American political life that Muslim immigrants are typically some of our best and most successful citizens.

So in theory a more intelligent and selective approach to EU immigration would be genius. In practice, of course, it will never work that way, and this just amounts to loosening immigration constraints.

[anaconda]

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[Te(V)plar]

I see nothing wrong with importing an educated/skilled workforce

[Piper]

The EU and the individual member countries needs to stop importing outsiders, and encouraging its own people to have children, and help those that do support and educate them.

The native citizens are forced to carry the heavy tax burden, and have a hard time being able to pay for more children in a family. At the same time, immigration keeps wages low in the working class, and puts pressure on the housing market that raises housing costs.

With so many Europeans not having children, or averaging less than one child per family, immigration is not a solution to the inherent demographic/social implosion that is taking place.

Though not EU, Russia is waking up to the real problem and starting to encourage families and children.

Mark Steyn does a good, and humorous, analysis of the EU situation in his book: "America Alone: The End of the World as We Know It" by Mark Steyn http://www.amazon.com/America-Alone-...9795460&sr=1-1

[Piper]

Originally Posted by Te(V)plar

I see nothing wrong with importing an educated/skilled workforce

This isn't just a matter of job relocation. Immigrants to a new country should want BE that country, not just ecomomic entities. Someone coming to Britain should want to be British. Someone coming to Europe should want to be European. The should not be wanting to just transplant themselves for the sake of economic gain, but to truly assimilate. Any group coming with the intention of supplanting, subverting, overthrowing, destroying their host country should be excluded.

[HFFH]

Originally Posted by anaconda

HFFH/dr

what does that mean?

[Magooglie]

HFFH/dr

[texteditor]

We're going to need it.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogra...graphic_future


I hear the Japanese are having the same problem but rather invest in robot technology.