[RemoWilliams]

Originally Posted by David Koresh

He has actually stated numerous times that he will have a tape recorder next to him on his death bed so idiots like you don't perpetuate some bullshit rumors after he dies.

A tape recorder at his death bed? And you call me? A registered nurse with an advanced degree who has seen ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE FROM EVERY CULTURE DIE? an idiot.

Oh, but that genius will have a tape recorder to record exacly how it is when you die?

Hahahahahahha....

I don't know whether to shit or laugh.

Maybe both.

I hope he not only has a tape recorder, but an advanced Video Recording Studio present focussing on his eyes to the last respiration and pulse and see his expression.

[David Koresh]

Originally Posted by Revolution

Dawkins is an ideologue. A smart one, it's true, but a myopic ideologue nonetheless.

I don't think the alternative to nature+nurture is angels and demons. What about real, honest, cognition?
Of course, you coud say that our cognition is altered by whatever prism with which we were raised, but I still think the ability to cognate is what sets us apart from the animals. And if one can cognate, one can decipher the difference between good and "evil." Right?

I'd like to respond to you but I honestly don't know what you're arguing here.

[David Koresh]

Originally Posted by RemoWilliams

A tape recorder at his death bed? And you call me? A registered nurse with an advanced degree who has seen ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE FROM EVERY CULTURE DIE? an idiot.

Oh, but that genius will have a tape recorder to record exacly how it is when you die?

Hahahahahahha....

I don't know whether to shit or laugh.

Maybe both.

I hope he not only has a tape recorder, but an advanced Video Recording Studio present focussing on his eyes to the last respiration and pulse and see his expression.

No, the point of the recording is so disingenuous religious folk don't start rumors, as they did with Darwin and others, that he had a death-bed conversion to Christianity.

[Bill Baker]

i have heard of athiests yelling "GOD"

in times of shock, whether its an innate belief in God or just an expression they're used to hearin, idk

[Revolution]

Originally Posted by David Koresh

I'd like to respond to you but I honestly don't know what you're arguing here.

That's cool, no need to be hostile. I'm just saying that "evil" doesn't have to be a religious term, and that cognition -- the ability to think -- should inform our judgment about what is or is not "evil." It is cognition that separates us from animals, for example. No matter how FFFF-ed up we may be from screwed up nature or nurture, we are still able to cognate, and thus, determine good from evil.

I think.

[RJ Powell]

you guys want evil? watch this and tell me this doesn't constitute evil. This is bad, even for war time.

The Rape of Nanking - Nanjing Massacre -English Language Edition

Now that i think of it, the japanese were fucking brutal in the 20th century. I can see why there is still some lingering tension between Japanese and other asians even to this day.

I sometimes wonder what drives a whole nation of people to be so depraved. Is it nature or nurture?

[David Koresh]

Originally Posted by Revolution

That's cool, no need to be hostile. I'm just saying that "evil" doesn't have to be a religious term, and that cognition -- the ability to think -- should inform our judgment about what is or is not "evil." It is cognition that separates us from animals, for example. No matter how FFFF-ed up we may be from screwed up nature or nurture, we are still able to cognate, and thus, determine good from evil.

I think.

I think some people, say paranoid schizophrenics for example, have brains that are not functioning proper and are therefore incapable of "honest cognition." Some people live good honest lives and then suffer head trauma resulting in an inability to calculate, speak, decipher, etc. How does this fit into your theory?

[David Koresh]

We do not all have the same moral capacity. To think otherwise is wishful thinking.

[Revolution]

Originally Posted by David Koresh

I think some people, say paranoid schizophrenics for example, have brains that are not functioning proper and are therefore incapable of "honest cognition." Some people live good honest lives and then suffer head trauma resulting in an inability to calculate, speak, decipher, etc. How does this fit into your theory?

Well, I don't have a "theory." That's why I started this thread. I would say those with severe head trauma may -- may -- be incapable of "evil." I just don't know.
But that's why I'm asking if "evil" really exists at all. I tend to think it does, but I'm not sure.

[RemoWilliams]

I like to keep it simple and hope many can follow this.

In this world, where there is the most turmoid, is Christ around? NO

In this world, where A Constitution was created (right or wrong), with God and Christ at it's center-piece?

It's still around and the most hated government of the world because its still the most stable, most secure, and powerful on EARTH!

The Muslims? The Buddhists? They're both suffering.

Why?

The United States of America isnt becasue it has Christ as it's Shield.

And why it's the most hated

"When those insult and hate you all because of me? Blessed, Blessed are you!" - Matthew

Sucks to be the rest of the world who now are waging war against Christianity.

Tibetans (Buddists), are being Victimized by the Communistic atheistic brutal regime of China.

The Muslims, continue to spread their hate and error in The middle east, and why they're not stable.

Name where Muslims feel they have a land where they are totally free.

America?

A Christian founded nation.. Still stable. No threats to it. Even it's limited internal threats are rather comical.

Do the math.