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Old 05-15-2008, 05:49 PM   #211 (permalink)

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Of course it does, religion is simply a method in which an individual/society follows in order to maintain an agreeable balance. Even if a god is not involved, have no mistake about it, there is still religion.
What Roman Emperor is that in your AV?
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Old 05-15-2008, 05:58 PM   #212 (permalink)

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Old 05-15-2008, 06:00 PM   #213 (permalink)

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Old 05-15-2008, 06:15 PM   #214 (permalink)

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The only way one can quantify a true right or wrong is for every single person to agree on one particular thing and say "hey, this is wrong." But it doesn't work like that, no two people on earth agree on every single thing, because they interpret right and wrong different and to different degrees. The line on where morality stands changes with every person.
I understand what you're saying (and have all along actually) but I just can't buy into it. From a purely rational standpoint what you're saying makes sense, but my belief is simply based on something I believe to be inherent in all sane, rational human beings. People can convince themselves or be brainwashed into doing things that are wrong, but still know that what they are doing is wrong, on some level at least. The human mind is so complex that it makes this discussion an almost impossible one to have. I still believe that there is a "bare minimum" for morality. Anything above that line is up for debate. Anything below it is not. Of course you would obviously argue that people will disagree where that line is drawn. And there's nothing I could say to dispute that except that humans are unique creatures which I believe allows us, once we reach a certain level of cognitive awareness, to understand where that line should be drawn. Do we fool ourselves (some of us at least, especially what we would call the "deviants" of society) into believing the line doesn't exist? You bet. But nothing can convince me it isn't there.
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Old 05-15-2008, 06:30 PM   #215 (permalink)

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Old 05-16-2008, 07:29 AM   #216 (permalink)

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People saying evil dont exist because it is personal and are different between cultures are totally mistaken !

If so, then people dont exist also for they are all different among each other.

DNA dont exist since they differ for every single creature.

Sure evil exist.
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Old 05-16-2008, 07:51 AM   #217 (permalink)

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Evil is Neanderthal superstition. It has no place in the 21st century.
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Old 05-16-2008, 09:24 AM   #218 (permalink)

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Yes, evil exists. So does free will.
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Old 05-16-2008, 12:49 PM   #219 (permalink)

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Pillbox Joe used the reference to Roman Emperors to support his point.

I'm not arguing that it wasn't an accepted practice among Roman Emperors of a certain era. I'm arguing that there is a difference between doing and accepting something as right or wrong. Unless you can go back or have evidence to suggest that these Emperors thought their behaviour was right or wrong it's a moot point.

Serial killers and rapists continue to kill and rape even though they know what they are doing is wrong.
WHY would they consider their livestyles wrong bisexuality was an accepted practice in imperial to them YOU would probably be immoral.

morality is subjective to the morals and different cultures of people.

There are many who would call the modern western society decadent and wrong.

What you consider right or wrong is not universal.
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Old 05-16-2008, 12:55 PM   #220 (permalink)

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I am pretty sure that every one here would recognize an evil act.

So, why do they say evil dont exist ?

To deny evil is to deny our own self and consciousness.
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