[Pillbox Joe]

Originally Posted by David Koresh

I think most of the time it is Gender identity disorder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia but of course environment does play a small role.

You ever wonder why most homosexuals say they have had their impulses since before they could remember? What about gay people with straight brothers and sisters who all grew up in the same household? Was someone secretly teaching them to be gay?

What about identical twin studies? Have you heard of them?

Okay, what about Rome where bisexuality was a normal standard. Or the Tribes I mentioned earlier that practice ritual pedophliphic oral insemination in young male boys for pleasure and practice heterosexuality only to reproduce?

[David Koresh]

Who taught you how to desire women and be straight Pillbox? Who taught you how to get a hard-on and jerk off?

[Pillbox Joe]

Originally Posted by David Koresh

Yes thats exactly what they show. You didn't answer my question though.

No it isn't. For example, all humans have skin. Does this mean that there is some inherent knowledge that humans have to grow skin? No, it simply means their body reflexivly grows skin, yet it's still a universal, but not an instinctual thing. Thats what you aren't understanding.

Originally Posted by David Koresh

LOL thats because they are BABIES. They do little more than eat, sleep, and cry -- all of which come naturally btw.

Yes, thats all that they do because they have no instincts. They learn their behavior later in life.

[Pillbox Joe]

Originally Posted by David Koresh

Who taught you how to desire women and be straight Pillbox? Who taught you how to get a hard-on and jerk off?

I am asexual. I don't desire sex.

[David Koresh]

Originally Posted by Pillbox Joe

Okay, what about Rome where bisexuality was a normal standard. Or the Tribes I mentioned earlier that practice ritual pedophliphic oral insemination in young male boys for pleasure and practice heterosexuality only to reproduce?

I don't deny that those behaviors are learned and ritualistic but that doesn't mean those people don't share similar traits with the rest of humanity. I'm sure if we analyzed that tribe we would find plenty of universals. And the Romans had bisexuals yes, so does every other culture.

[David Koresh]

Originally Posted by Pillbox Joe

I am asexual. I don't desire sex.

Have you been to a doctor?

[David Koresh]

Originally Posted by Pillbox Joe

No it isn't. For example, all humans have skin. Does this mean that there is some inherent knowledge that humans have to grow skin? No, it simply means their body reflexivly grows skin, yet it's still a universal, but not an instinctual thing. Thats what you aren't understanding.

That analogy doesn't even make sense.

All humans share numerous traits, values, and customs. This is either because they all just happened to learn the same ones or because natural selection has acted on the brain as it does everything else. Hmmm...

[mkess101]

Originally Posted by Pillbox Joe

I am asexual. I don't desire sex.

Ouch. Really? No offense, but I'm glad I'm not you.

[Pillbox Joe]

Originally Posted by David Koresh

I don't deny that those behaviors are learned and ritualistic but that doesn't mean those people don't share similar traits with the rest of humanity. I'm sure if we analyzed that tribe we would find plenty of universals. And the Romans had bisexuals yes, so does every other culture.

Okay, then check this out.

Powell's Books - The Sambia: Ritual, Sexuality, and Change in Papua New Guinea (Case Studies in Cultural Anthropology) by Gilbert Herdt

In fact, the only animal that is proven to have sex purely for pleasure are humans (though some studies speculate that dolphins are the only other animal that share this trait).

Not just universals, but universals that show humans have some sort of inherent drive (which isn't true and never will be because humans like i've said over and over humans dont have instincts)

[Pillbox Joe]

Originally Posted by David Koresh

All humans share numerous traits, values, and customs.

No they don't.