[David Koresh]

Originally Posted by Pillbox Joe

No, I've never studied sociology. Yes, things such as migratory patterns displayed by flocks are an instinctual act.

ALL animals have instincts. I don't see how you can possibly deny this.

[Pillbox Joe]

Originally Posted by David Koresh

ALL animals have instincts. I don't see how you can possibly deny this.

... what instincts do humans display? Instincts are unlearned. Humans react ONLY through learned responses.

[David Koresh]

Originally Posted by Pillbox Joe

... what instincts do humans display? Instincts are unlearned. Humans react ONLY through learned responses.

No offense but that is just myopic. There are inborn propensities for most, if not all, of our basic behaviors such as eating, sex, speaking, emotion, actually here let me just bust out the list

Human Universals

[Pillbox Joe]

Originally Posted by David Koresh

No offense but that is just myopic. There are inborn propensities for most, if not all, of our basic behaviors such as eating, sex, speaking, emotion, actually here let me just bust out the list

Human Universals

Eatting doesn't occur inherently. Children are fed and suckle reflexivly. Sex doesn't occur inherently. Children are taught sex, sexuality is culturally based. Tribes in Melanesia in Papua New Guinea practice homosexual pedophilia and ritual oral insemination of male boys. Sex is practiced only for reproductive purposes and is followed because children are even born only seasonally. Bisexuality was the norm in Rome. This proves that sexual urges are varied between cultures and learned and not instinctual. Speech is a learned response, this seems obvious. You offer no real substance with your post, yet call me myopic. I think you know I'm right.

[RJ Powell]

OK?.....so then what exactly would be your definition of instincts?

[GOD_OF_MUAYTHAI]

evil in itself is a philosophical paradox, is it evil to kill innocent people to cure cancer ? the deaths of innocents will save millions ? how about in war ? sometimes to achieve a military objective you will knowingly sacrifice troops to obtain objectives. is that evil ? evil is in the eye of the beholder

[Pillbox Joe]

Originally Posted by RJ Powell

OK?.....so then what exactly would be your definition of instincts?

Inherent and unlearned or unreflexive actions. Fixed action patterns and dispotitions in living organisms. Like quadraped mammals knowning how to walk and run from birth, or birds migritory patterns. Even baby birds know which way to fly seasonally. Human babies must learn how to walk and have no sense of direction.

[RJ Powell]

Like how reptiles are born knowing what to do already without the need of nursing unlike most mammals? O, i c what u r getting at thar.

[Pillbox Joe]

Originally Posted by RJ Powell

Like how reptiles are born knowing what to do already without the need of nursing unlike most mammals? O, i c what u r getting at thar.

Yes. Humans learn EVERYTHING that they do. All of their actions are learned, and if anyone tells you otherwise, they are wrong. Humans have no instincts, they react reflexivly and through learned behavior.

[David Koresh]

Originally Posted by Pillbox Joe

Eatting doesn't occur inherently. Children are fed and suckle reflexivly. Sex doesn't occur inherently. Children are taught sex, sexuality is culturally based. Tribes in Melanesia in Papua New Guinea practice homosexual pedophilia and ritual oral insemination of male boys. Sex is practiced only for reproductive purposes and is followed because children are even born only seasonally. Bisexuality was the norm in Rome. This proves that sexual urges are varied between cultures and learned and not instinctual. Speech is a learned response, this seems obvious. You offer no real substance with your post, yet call me myopic. I think you know I'm right.

You're crazy and its interesting how you have ignored both of my sources. And wtf is the difference between 'instinctually' and 'reflexively?'

Your Papa New Guinea reference is dubious. I'd like to see the literature on it. Please go and fetch it for me. You also need to explain the fact that they reproduce at all. Do you really think reproduction is a learned behavior? You're out of your mind if you think it is.

And yes syntax and language is instinctual. I highly recommend this book The Language Instinct - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Read Chompsky while you're at it
Universal grammar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And wtf are you talking about, sexuality is culturally based? There have been homosexuals since the beginning of time. There are homosexual non-human animals as well. Are they all being taught to be gay?

But most importantly you really need to explain the fact that human universals exist. There are two possibilities here.

1. All cultures just happen to be learning the same exact things.
2. There are inborn qualities that exist in all homo sapiens

Gee I wonder which is true.