[MicroBrew]

I once withdrew almost 4grand and brought it home in an envelope. Needed to give to a family member. Now what if the cops stopped me, how and more importantly why the hell should I have to prove its legit money. Why should I be presumed guilty without any evidence .

[PhatWah]

Originally Posted by MicroBrew

I once withdrew almost 4grand and brought it home in an envelope. Needed to give to a family member. Now what if the cops stopped me, how and more importantly why the hell should I have to prove its legit money. Why should I be presumed guilty without any evidence .

because you must submit to the almighty cops. always!
do you want to lose 3 teeth in an unintentional face to wall meeting?

[AZ BJJ]

Originally Posted by PhatWah

because you must submit to the almighty cops. always!
do you want to lose 3 teeth in an unintentional face to wall meeting?

Just make sure you mouth off and resist arrest.

[AZ BJJ]

Props to the TF for using NPR. Far too few people post links to stories from reputable places anymore.

Secondly, there should be extra safeguards built in to seizures of money.

Lastly, every last penny should be put into getting more officers back on the streets.

[AmericaOverAll]

Originally Posted by LavrentiBeria

Deputy Has Midas Touch in Asset Seizures : NPR
Seized Drug Assets Pad Police Budgets : NPR
Sheriff Under Scrutiny over Drug Money Spending : NPR



Incredible corruption. How the hell is this allowed in civilized country?
Basically, a cop can pull you over for not signaling or whatever, search you car and if you happen to have a lot of cash, he'll seize it. Unless you're prepared to spend a lot of money suing them, they get to keep it. And that's their 'proof' that you're guilty

Um...that's just about how every traffic stop in America goes. Cops do whatever they want. The lawyers and judges too. Scum of the earth.

[AmericaOverAll]

Originally Posted by AZ BJJ

Props to the TF for using NPR. Far too few people post links to stories from reputable places anymore.

Secondly, there should be extra safeguards built in to seizures of money.

Lastly, every last penny should be put into getting more officers back on the streets.

Why would we want more of these corrupt assholes on the street?

[canadafightteam]

That seems to corrupt to be true. Scary.

i would expect the entire States law inforcement to be sitting on the side of the highway.

[muerteverde]

Originally Posted by canadafightteam

That seems to corrupt to be true. Scary.

i would expect the entire States law inforcement to be sitting on the side of the highway.

It is true.

Read the link about civil asset forfeiture. They don't have to have evidence against you. They don't have to convict you of any crime at all. They take your property and they actually sue the money, not you, and the money itself has to prove that it was obtained legitemately. Average cost of defense is $10,000, so you lose even if you get your money back.

And when you are guilty of a minor crime, like the people in the stories I posted, they can use it as justification to take the rest of your property. The guy who ran a LEGAL counseling service out of his house was arrested for practicing psychiatry without a license and had all of his assets seized. So why should every single thing he owns be taken and never returned to him I ask?

There are so many thousands of these cases that they aren't hard to find. They aren't all just suspicious looking characters with trunk loads of 100 dollar bills and bullet holes in their cars and tatoos on their necks. There is a presumption of guilt if you have cash on you or in your car or in your house and if you can't prove that it was obtained legally, it gets taken, no crime need be commited by you at all.

[CenterMass]

Originally Posted by LavrentiBeria

On a traffic stop all they need is either consent to search, or to claim that they see something in your car-it's in plain sight so they can get to it without your consent.

Yeah, but alot of DDA's (Deputy District Attorney's), scrutinize our police reports then question us up the ass about our Probable Cause for the stop.

We don't have as much power as you think. Most of the time, people just make it easy for us to mess with you.

Because usually the people we stop ARE GUILTY of doing something fishy.

If I stop a 32 year old driving a hyundai, and he's got 7500 bucks in cash in his wallet?

You're darn right I'm suspecting illegal drug activity. I know another deputy in a similar scenario just like that, that uncovered 100 lbs of cocaine in the trunk on his secondary search.

So there is a method to our madness. And yes, SOMETIMES cops abuse it. But they're knucle-heads.

[Heresy]

The problem is that the law has created an incentive for the police to search/harass/confiscate/steal.

If they money they seized went to something other than the local law enforcement office, you'd see a dramatic drop in unnecessary searches/seizures.