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Originally Posted by USAMMAFAN
no its extremist ideologues who ignore reality that have gotten us into our present situation in iraq
all the worst leaders in history, hitler, stalin, etc were extremist ideologues
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As were the best. Ghandi never compromised on non-violence, MLK never compromised on civil rights or non violence, that Jesus guy didnt compromise. They ignored reality, and changed it. Stalin and Hitler would side with anyone, or do anything, to further their cause. Their idealogy wasnt their #1 concern, their own personal ambition was.
It was pragmatic idiots who dont believe in anything, and therefore couldnt stand for anything, that got us into Iraq. It was idealogues like Ted Kennedy and Robert Byrd who voted against it. It was pragmatist moderats like Biden and Hilary who voted for it.
I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.
Barry Goldwater