[TheMMAn]

Originally Posted by Ultimo Hombre

1-When oil was $20 a barrel in the 90's, and Big Oil wasn't so big, how do you think they maintained opperations and paid their executives millions of dollars a year? SUBSIDIES!! They cried for, and got, our tax money to keep them afloat. Not very big Capitalists back then, huh? Now that oil is $120 a barrel all the profit they make is theirs? PUUULEASE!!! Also, we are STILL SUBSIDIZING THOSE MUTHERFUCKERS so this idea that the $20B Exxon makes every 4 months should be theirs and all theirs is fucking ridiculous.

2- The wants/needs of a few million people who own shares for profit is more important and should trump the wants and needs of 300M citizens? No thanks. I disagree. The few people who own shares can actually suck cock and play by OUR rules, not the other way around.

US Constitution > WTO Guidlines IMO...

Besides, somebody has to make a move to quit funding Saudi Arabia and other OPEC nations. Everytime you and I pump gas those rag head fundy's get richer and richer. This has to end, and Big Oil isn't going to spearhead a transition to renewable/alternative energy (something most americans citizens/consumers want), so we Americans are going to use politics to acheive this. Obama has said he will raise tax on Big Oil and use the proceeds to fund American businesses who are developing new sources of energy. I have no problem with this. No problem what so ever.

Of course you might say that I only want a renewable energy infrastructure, and choose to tax profitable corporations to acheive this, because I'm brainwashed by lobbyists and their owned politicians, but on the same hand I could say you support Big Oils profit machine and "market efficiencies" because you're brainwashed by marketing, commercials and right-wing think tank efforts.

Looks like you weren't looking for thoughts that differed from yours, you ignorant piss-ant. Didn't take long for your true colors to come out. You think the idea that supply and demand is the most efficient method of asset allocation is a right-wing concept? Somebody's prof has them thinking out of their ass. Yeah, you are probably right, we should just use emotion and feelings to govern resource allocation in this country. I'm sure that will work out just fine.

I'll let Kingtu TRY to educate you a little, but i fear your mind is too closed to learn.



Peace Out

[vogues157]

Originally Posted by Ultimo Hombre

In order for us citizens to truely utilize our political mechanisms to affect change in the market, we must seek these scumbags out and kill them in their sleep.

I like your thinking, but we definitely have our work cut out for us. Honestly, how many of the good guys are left in office? That's why I was a Ron Paul supporter. To me at least, he seemed to be one of the few politicians that wasn't corrupt. The more I follow politics, the more cynical I become about any sort of change happening from the status quo in Washington.

[TheMMAn]

Originally Posted by Ultimo Hombre

No such thing. If this truely existed then Corporations would not spend more on marketing (brainwashing) then creating new products and services. Transactions are hardly mutually beneficial. Sellers try to create an ILLUSION that there is a mutual benefit- and the Buyer must, indeed, beware. We consumer/citizens sometimes like to use our Democracy to, indeed, make this so-called market mutually beneficial.

People like you hate this because when consumers empower themselves through being politically active citizens- it makes it hard for you to maximize profit by keeping the consumer ignorant and shelling out snake oil.

Goddam, what a hippy your prof must be.

No such thing. If this truely existed then Corporations would not spend more on marketing (brainwashing) then creating new products and services.

Do you understand the very simple concept of competition? How in the hell is this supposed to counter the point of voluntary transactions?

As a consumer, i dont buy something voluntarily because the vendor spends too much (according to you) on advertisement?


Wow.

[Ultimo Hombre]

Wow what?

[kingstu]

Originally Posted by Ultimo Hombre

People like you hate this because when consumers empower themselves through being politically active citizens- it makes it hard for you to maximize profit by keeping the consumer ignorant and shelling out snake oil.

WTF in God's Green Corn you you talking about? You only make purchases when outsmarted by marketers?

[kingstu]

Originally Posted by TheMMAn

As a consumer, i dont buy something voluntarily because the vendor spends too much (according to you) on advertisement?

I've NEVER seen a commerical or ad for rice but somehow I managed to buy some the other day.

[TheMMAn]

Originally Posted by kingstu

WTF in God's Green Corn you you talking about? You only make purchases when outsmarted by marketers?

Easy. Judging by the intelligence he's displayed here, this might actually be the case.

[kingstu]

Originally Posted by TheMMAn

Judging by the intelligence he's displayed here, this might actually be the case.

I wonder which marketing firm introduced him to Sherdog.