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Old 04-25-2008, 12:48 AM   #1 (permalink)
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The Case for Obama

Not a bad justification:

From the wall Street Journal: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1209...ost_viewed_day


Obama Campaign's Memo to Superdelegates

TO: Superdelegates

FR: Obama Campaign

RE: The strongest candidate to face John McCain

DA: April 24, 2008

Who's the strongest candidate to take on John McCain?

After 45 contests, Senator Obama has won more delegates, twice as many states and territories, and more of the popular vote. He's won in every part of the country, and has scored victories among every segment of electorate. He's inspired Democrats, Independents, and Republicans, building an unprecedented coalition of more than 1.4 million contributors. And when it comes to head-to-head match-ups versus John McCain, Obama performs better than Clinton in key states and shows the potential to put new states in play for Democrats up and down the ballot.

Polling data from across the country, from large states and small, reflects the advantage Senator Obama would bring in a race this fall. His ability to expand the Democratic base, and his ability to capture the crucial Independent vote, make him a stronger candidate than Senator Clinton, who would enter the fall campaign with the highest unfavorable ratings of any nominee in half a century.

Big States

• California: Obama beats McCain by 27, Clinton beats him by 23. (SurveyUSA, 2/23)

• New York: A February poll of Clinton's home state shows her beating McCain by 11, while Obama beats McCain by 10. (Quinnipiac, 3/18)

• New Jersey: Obama and Clinton both beat McCain by 5. (Farleigh Dickinson, 3/30)

• Illinois: Obama beats McCain by 29 in his home state, while Clinton wins by 9. (SurveyUSA, 2/28)


Traditional Battlegrounds

• Iowa: Obama up 7, Clinton down 6. (SurveyUSA, 4/17),
Among Independents: Obama up 9, Clinton down 31. (Rasmussen, 3/31)

• North Carolina: Clinton trails McCain by 11, Obama ties him. (Rasmussen, 4/10)
Among Independents: Obama up 8, Clinton down 16. (Rasmussen, 4/10)

• Oregon: Obama up 9, Clinton up only 1 (SurveyUSA, 4/17) A march poll showed Obama up 6 and Clinton down 6 (Rasmussen, 3/26)
Among Independents: Obama up 11, Clinton up 4. (Rasmussen, 3/26)

• Wisconsin: Obama up 5 while Clinton ties. (SurveyUSA, 4/17) A March poll showed Obama up 4 and Clinton down 4. (WPR, 3/26)
Among Independents: Obama up 17, Clinton up 2. (Rasmussen, 3/26)

• Michigan: Obama trailing by 1, Clinton trailing by 3. (Rasmussen, 3/25) A February poll showed Obama up 8 and Clinton tied. (Rasmussen, 2/17)

• New Mexico: Obama up by 3, Clinton down by 3. (Rasmussen, 4/8)
Among Independents: Obama up 8, Clinton down 5. (Rasmussen, 4/8)

• Nevada: Obama leads by 4, Clinton leads by 1. (Rasmussen 3/19)

• Minnesota: Obama up 14, Clinton up 5. (Rasmussen, 4/22)
Among Independents: Obama up 9, Clinton down 14. (Rasmussen 3/19)

• Pennsylvania: Clinton up 9, Obama up 8 (Rasmussen, 4/9)
Among Independents: Obama down 1, Clinton down 19. (Rasmussen, 4/9)


Making new states competitive

• Colorado: Obama up 3, Clinton down 14. (Rasmussen, 4/19) A February poll showed up Obama up 9 and Clinton down 6. (SurveyUSA, 2/28)
Among Independents: Obama up 9, Clinton down 13. (Rasmussen, 3/17)

• North Dakota: Obama up 4, Clinton down 19. (SurveyUSA, 2/28)
Among Independents: Obama up 9, Clinton down 29. (Survey USA, 2/28)

• Virginia: Obama down 8, Clinton down 16. (SurveyUSA, 4/17)
Among Independents: Obama up 10, Clinton down 8. (SurveyUSA, 3/16)

• Montana: Obama down 5, Clinton down 18 (Rasmussen, 4/6)
Obama down 2, Clinton down 12 (Rasmussen, 4/6)

• Texas: Obama down only 1, Clinton down 7 (SurveyUSA, 2/28)
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Old 04-25-2008, 12:59 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Frankly, at this point I don't think either one of these socialists can beat McCain.
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Old 04-25-2008, 01:00 AM   #3 (permalink)

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A week ago, I thought that Clinton's efforts to stay in the race were more of an ego trip and futile at best. It is going to take a miracle for her to finish with more popular votes and delegates by the DNC.

Now, I think the superdelegates may actually hand her the nomination anyway. The Clinton machine is running full steam ahead now. Politics at its best.
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Old 04-25-2008, 01:06 AM   #4 (permalink)
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A week ago, I thought that Clinton's efforts to stay in the race were more of an ego trip and futile at best. It is going to take a miracle for her to finish with more popular votes and delegates by the DNC.

Now, I think the superdelegates may actually hand her the nomination anyway. The Clinton machine is running full steam ahead now. Politics at its best.
I'm sure that will be real cool with Black America and won't cause increased racial tensions in the country during bad times that are continuing to get worse. Personally, though, I hope they do. So we can go ahead and iron out all the racial issues.
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McGovern v2.0

If Obama was white, his name would be John Edwards. Edwards somehow gets knocked out of the race for being an elitist who loves great hair cuts, while Obama gets even more shallow fans for being an elitist.


Obama 08 (for all the poor people)!


yay lets give more money to people who suck at life!
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McGovern v2.0

If Obama was white, his name would be John Edwards. Edwards somehow gets knocked out of the race for being an elitist who loves great hair cuts, while Obama gets even more shallow fans for being an elitist.


Obama 08 (for all the poor people)!


yay lets give more money to people who suck at life!
Stupidity should be painful.

People like you are the problem: Sheltered caucasians who think they know everything.
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yay lets give more money to people who suck at life!
You're quite self-serving
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For the record it should have been Edwards and Obama right now, Hillary is only alive because she is a woman.
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I'm sure that will be real cool with Black America and won't cause increased racial tensions in the country during bad times that are continuing to get worse. Personally, though, I hope they do. So we can go ahead and iron out all the racial issues.
Wouldn't electing Obama further that goal rather than getting shafted by a bitchy white woman?
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Stupidity should be painful.

People like you are the problem: Sheltered caucasians who think they know everything.
first off, I'm not white, second off, how am I stupid when I went to a top university?
Please explain to me how welfare helps anyone besides liberals feel better on the inside?

You want to solve poverty, you limit the number of children you can have based on family income. It is irresponsible for poor people to have children, and they should have to face the consequences of their mistakes.


and LOL at the person from georgia thinking Hilary is only in the race because she is a woman. Last time i checked she was only getting like 60% of the female vote, while Obama is getting 90% of the black vote.

So either 90% of black people are poor (since only poor people will benefit from Obama), or racism is the reason Obama is winning.
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